The Drawbridge

BIblical Controversies and Discord

Simon, Simon – Who is Simon’s Son? Part Two

John 19:25

Now there stood by the cross of Jesus his mother, and his mother‘s sister, Mary the wife of Cleophas, and Mary Magdalene.

I cannot imagine that the mother of Jesus would be called the same name as her sister.

  Maybe that is why the punctuation mark (comma) was added later to clarify that Mary wife of Cleophas

was not the sister of Mary in the verse John 19:26 above.

But is that true?

Please read the post called:

The Mother of Jesus Christ: SHALOM!




Cleophas was one the two men walking on the road to Emmaus that said he saw Jesus Christ after He was risen as they walked 7 and a half miles from Emmaus, then ate with Jesus Christ then walked again 7 and a half miles in the same hour from Emmaus back to Jerusalem! CLEOPHAS and the other man met with the disciples behind closed doors and said they knew of them in breaking bread.

They must have been wearing Nike running shoes to be able to walk 7 and 1/2 miles one way chit chat and then eat and again walk 7 and 1/2 miles back in one hour!

Most people have a hard time jogging a 10 minute mile and that is on paved jogging tracks! Lets say they jogged a 10 minute mile that would make it 70 minutes one way and 70 minutes back again with a meal in between which adds up to over 140 minutes at the least which is 2 hours and 20 minutes at the least

and that is jogging in sandals?

Even then if this is an exaggeration of time why rush to get back to Jerusalem when they just got to Emmaus. The apostles were clustered behind closed doors for fear of the Jews, but these two men are trolluping between two cities fearlessly and able to find the house that these other chosen apostles are hiding in,

even though they did not know them, but knew of them in breaking bread!

Luke 24:33-35

33 And they rose up the same hour, and returned to Jerusalem, and found the eleven gathered together, and them that were with them, 34 Saying, The Lord is risen indeed, and hath appeared to Simon. 35 And they told what things were done in the way, and how he was known of them in breaking of bread.

So Jesus appears to Simon before he appears to his chosen apostles because Luke says so,

even though he personally was not there!

Jesus waits for a person named Simon and a person named Cleophas

to show up again where the others (HIS CHOSEN APOSTLES) are gathered behind closed doors!

John does not mention that Cleophas and/or Simon came

or said that they had indeed “seen Jesus Christ risen”

…..and John was there!

Who is lying?

IF they did not know them before and had only heard of them “in breaking bread”,

how did they know where they were gathered behind closed doors?

I think Luke and his pals felt excluded and made up a story.

There is no substance to their story except to be included and be placed ahead of the apostles.

“Have ye any meat?” Just does not sound like Jesus of the gospel of John whatsoever. I don’t think they liked Jesus and I think they are mocking because what was written in the Gospel of John with Jesus and the woman at the well when he said

“my meat is to do the will of him who sent me.”

And since Luke and his pals disdain women I think they are mocking.


John does mention the name Cleophas except once when he says that Cleophas’s wife Mary stood by the cross.

(which could have been added into scripture later…who knows?)

And then, Jesus asks for food again, even though he had already eaten that same hour with Cleophas and his friend!

Luke 24:41-43

41And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any meat?

42And they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb.43And he took it, and did eat before them.

I guess Cleophas and his friend did not give Jesus big enough portions of food

because according to Luke, who was a follower and defender of Saul/ Paul

and who did not know Jesus Christ says that Jesus Christ asked for more food!

So they feed him again.


I guess Jesus Christ was house-hopping for meat?

But the gospel of John doesn’t say that Jesus asked for food!


What in the world does Luke mean by:

“And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered”

Luke has a way with words very similar to Saul/Paul when he explains the meaning of Amen

and when he is Cursing Anathema Maranatha!

Anyway that statement is perverted, inane and mocking.

Here is another way of putting it: 

And whileth ey yet believe d not forj oy, and won dered

 It makes about as much sense as the above version.

Please Read:

The Grace of Anathema Maranatha


It is established by Luke that either Cleophas is called SIMON

or the man that walked with him to Emmaus is called Simon!

Luke 24:34

34Saying, The Lord is risen indeed, and hath appeared to Simon.

Cleophas (klē`ōfəs),

in the New Testament, husband of one of the Marys who stood at the foot of the Cross. This is apparently Mary the mother of St. James the Less, but the father of James the Less is Alphaeus. An explanation is that Cleophas is the Aramaic form and Alphaeus the Greek form of the same nameSome identify Cleopas with Cleophas.


Part 3


It is Simon’s son that is the betrayer!

In New Exhibit, Running Shoes Are Potent Symbol Of Boston Bombing


The Son of Simon Part Three (in revision)


I Am That I Am (The Sign) -Revised *

I AM THAT I AM (Part two)

Other Blogs of Mine:

Merangue’s Blog,    Blue Skies,    Eye of a Needle,    My Merlon

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