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Assassination of JFK and The Covenant with Many



PART 1

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JFK and Mel Gibson

The Covenant with Many

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The Covenant with Many

(revised)

 

February 11, 2010 By Kevin Flower Israeli archaeologists say they’ve found a 1,500-year-old road, 4.5 meters under the current level of streets in Jerusalem’s Old City.

 

The reason I am writing this post is because of the prophecy in Daniel that a lot of people write about on blogs and websites.

I don’t understand why the prophecy teachers and scholars that try to have an understanding of Daniel’s prophecies…get stuck on the same mantra.

I am not trying to be different, but I think there have been some colossal mistakes made by scholars, bible teachers and the whole spectrum of experts of the bible.

I don’t see how you can read the Gospel of John and collapse it into the Synoptic gospels and say they blend at all or compliment each other.


In Reality

The Gospel of John and the Synoptic Gospels

collide !

In the book of Daniel it talks about Messiah the Prince and a prince.

Why does everyone think the covenant with many is for the future.

How does one come to that conclusion from these verses?

Daniel 9:25-27

25Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.

It is quite possible that the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince has already occurred,

but has been covered up by the

Chief Priests and the Legion – (please read)

Ancient wall found in Jerusalem

Western Wall, Jerusalem

The Western Wall was built by King Herod in 20 BC during his expansion of the Temple enclosure, and is part of a retaining wall that enclosed the western part of Temple Mount. According to the Roman-Jewish historian Josephus, construction of the walls took 11 years, during which time it rained in Jerusalem only at night so as not to interfere with the workers’ progress.

Ancient road found in Jerusalem’s heart

February 11, 2010|By Kevin Flower

“Archaeologists working under the direction of the Israeli Antiquities Authority have uncovered a 1500-year-old road running through the center of Jerusalem’s Old City.

Excavation director Dr. Ofer Sion said the discovery lends further credence to the accuracy of what is known as the Madaba Map – a Byzantine period mosaic map of the Holy Land that depicts an entrance into Jerusalem that leads to a single central street.

Archaeologists working in Jerusalem have made various finds to suggest the Madaba map was geographically correct, but the road depicted in the mosaic had not been found.”

Obviously, there have been two walls from two different temple eras

and a road!


Micah predicted the downfall of Jerusalem and the destruction of the Temple, which were fulfilled by the Babylonian destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple in about 586 BC and again by the Romans in 70 AD. The Temple has not been rebuilt since that destruction. Jerusalem was destroyed a second time by the Romans in about 135 AD.

The only reason I added the above link and the information about the destruction of Jerusalem

and the temple and the destruction again of Jerusalemin in 135 AD

is because it might apply to Daniel’s prophecies.


Perhaps we are wrong about when Jesus really died? Many people seem to think Jesus was 30 or 33 when he started his ministry but in the Gospel of John they refer to him as not yet being 5o years old.

I would say we have a problem within the bible of who and which Jesus is the Messiah!

John 8:56-59

56Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.

57Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?

58Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.

59Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.

(Interesting that they threw stones at him.)

Cephus” means stone.

The Synoptic Gospels have built their “image of Jesus” metaphorically by using stones!

By the way, I believe Cephus refers to Josephus Flavius!

Was there ever a decree to build the temple to the Messiah the Prince?

Perchance the destruction of Jerusalem in 135 AD is a clue?

Maybe the decree to build the temple to the Messiah the Prince occurred before 135 AD!

Seems odd that after the destruction of Jerusalem in 70AD that anyone would need to destroy it again 65 years later.

Building a city takes time, and funds, and manpower,

so why was there a need to destroy it again so soon after it had already been destroyed?


Seems to me that most and maybe all scholars of the bible are making presumptions, because they lump the gospels into one big ball but I think, to be fair,

we should separate the Synoptic Gospels from the Gospel of John

and calculate both sides to see if maybe we can come up with some other answers.

Maybe that is what is meant by the 153 fish which relates to the inferred 153:265 ratio!

Pope Benedict XVI and 153 Great Fish

Pope Benedict XVI is the

265th Pope,

was born Joseph Aloisius Ratzinger


Mel Gibson, George Gänswein, and the Pope

George Gänswein, Pope Benedict XVI, and Mel Gibson

revised

In the two article above that I just recently posted which are very similar I included in both a link to an article I found on the internet about names!

Praising Or Pleading

(POP)

seems to be his (The Pope) MO these days and in this article he pleads for parents to give their children traditional names before baptism so I gather names have meaning to him!

So since they are so important I thought maybe his name might be important also.

The Pope’s Last Name

IN the article

I relate the possibility that the Pope is related to another Pope whose last name was RATTE which would fulfill another prophecy in Revelation 17:11 about him being the eighth and one of the seven:

The Seventh and the Eighth Pope of Revelation- Benedict XVI

But I did not deal with his middle name so:

The Pope’s Middle Name

Aloisius a german name means great warrior but comes from the name

Cleophas meaning and name origin

Cleophas \c-leo-phas\ as a boy’s name is of Greek origin, and the meaning of Cleophas is “visionof glory“.

Biblical name: husband of one of the Marys who stood at the foot of the Cross.

Cleophas has 4 variant forms: CleoCleofasCleofaso and Cleophus.


Alphaeus

which is basically the switch from the Synoptic version and Simon from Cyrene who bears the cross and takes over after Jesus is crucified. In essence to REPLACE the true disciples/apostles with his own sons etc because they were the Chief Priests and they wanted to stay that way and replace Jesus with their own perception of Him. It is the great deception! The Synoptic version of the bible (Matthew Mark and Luke) plus many additional books in the bible to form the amalgamation we now call Christianity.

Basically, Rome absconded the truth and twisted it into their baby.

That is why I believe that Mel Gibson has been targeted for his rendition of the Gospels in THE PASSION,

THE BABY or to be more specific THE DEVIL’s BABY

Here are a few posts about that baby!:

Affliction and the Time of Testing

Mel Gibson and the Book of Acts 2

Mel Gibson, Japan Quakes, and the Kamikazes

Mel Gibson, George Gänswein, and the Pope

George Gänswein, Pope Benedict XVI, and Mel Gibson

revised

You might say I went overboard, which is true, but I am trying to learn and to get your attention and the articles are ongoing because of the events which are at present rapidly unfolding.

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Back to the Prophecy of Daniel

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Daniel 9:26

26And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

INTERESTING: NICODEMAS MEANS “THE PEOPLE” AND

IT WAS NICODEMAS AND JOSEPH OF ARIMATHEA

THAT BURIED JESUS.


THE POPE’S FIRST NAME


IT’S A GOOD POSSIBILITY THAT JOSEPH OF ARIMATHEA

IS THE “prince of the people“.

Another interesting coincidence: Demas is a fellowlabourer of Paul:

Philemon 1:24

24Marcus, Aristarchus, Demas, Lucas, my fellowlabourers.

You don’t suppose that Demas is Nicodemas?

Joseph of Arimathea (A JUST MAN)

Daniel 9:27

27And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

Sounds to me like in order to cover-up the abomination he had to make it desolate?

Who is “he” in verse 27?

Is “he” the Messiah the Prince?

OR

Is “he” the prince?


It makes a big difference who “he” is in verse 27!

The thing that concerns me is that we have been waiting for some treaty or covenant that will be confirmed and seems to me we ought to know first and foremost:

what is the covenant that is made with the many?

Then try to figure out

who confirms that covenant with the many!


The Covenant with the Many


Many treaties have been made with many people so what kind of treaty will be made with the many and confirmed with the many that this particular prophecy in Daniel is referring to? Certainly it has to do with the prince and the temple and/or worship and/or sin.

Most treaties we read about in the news most people are unaware of so why would Daniel of the bible be speaking of some political treaty that only the few politicians and leaders involved realize. This is a prophecy about the Messiah the Prince and the people of the prince and he (I assume is the prince of the people)

But it isn’t a treaty that Daniel talks about….it’s a covenant!

To be more specific it is the “covenant with many”!


What is the covenant with many?

I looked up “covenant” in the bible search on line and found a lot of covenants.

The covenant that caught my eye is the one that the Synoptic Jesus makes with the Synoptic disciples at the Synoptic Last Supper

and the verses about this covenant uses the word many.

I think that is a BIG CLUE about this covenant!


MATTHEW 26:26-29

26And as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and blessed it, and brake it, and gave it to the disciples, and said, Take, eat; this is my body.27And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, Drink ye all of it;28For this is my blood of the new testamentwhich is shed for many for the remission of sins.29But I say unto you, I will not drink henceforth of this fruit of the vine, until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father’s kingdom.

MARK 14:22-25

22And as they did eat, Jesus took bread, and blessed, and brake it, and gave to them, and said, Take, eat: this is my body.23And he took the cup, and when he had given thanks, he gave it to them: and they all drank of it.24And he said unto them, This is my blood of the new testamentwhich is shed for many.25Verily I say unto you, I will drink no more of the fruit of the vine, until that day that I drink it new in the kingdom of God.

LUKE 22:15-20

15And he said unto them, With desire I have desired to eat this passover with you before I suffer:16For I say unto you, I will not any more eat thereof, until it be fulfilled in the kingdom of God.17And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and said, Take this, and divide it among yourselves:18For I say unto you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine, until the kingdom of God shall come.19And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me.20Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you.

 

THE GOSPEL OF JOHN

DOES NOT MENTION THIS

NEW TESTAMENT/Covenant with many!


I THINK THAT IS VERY SIGNIFICANT THAT THE

New Testament/Covenant

IS ABSENT IN

THE GOSPEL OF JOHN!


The three Synoptic gospels don’t mention the washing of the feet,

nor the dialogue that Jesus has with his disciples explaining what is going to happen

and many other things that is worth the time to study.


WHAT IS GOING ON?

Why are the Synoptic Gospels account of the Last Supper so different than the Gospel of John?


Were there two different “LAST SUPPERS”?


For a  break and for fun in an ironic way,

Please watch:

The Last, But One Supper

(It is a Monty Python skit with John Cleese acting like the Pope)


THE GOSPEL OF MATTHEW SAYS THAT BLOOD OF THE NEW TESTAMENT/Covenant WHICH IS SHED FOR THE MANY is

FOR THE “REMISSION OF SINS“.

THE OTHER TWO SYNOPTICS GOSPELS (MARK AND LUKE) EXCLUDE THE “REMISSION OF SINS” TO THE NEW TESTAMENT/Covenant.

THE GOSPEL OF MATTHEW AND THE GOSPEL OF MARK SAY THAT THE BLOOD OF THE NEW TESTAMENT/covenant IS SHED FOR THE MANY.

BUT THE GOSPEL OF LUKE SAYS IT IS FOR YOU. (HE IS TALKING TO HIS DISCIPLES)

EVEN THOUGH THESE SYNOPTIC GOSPELS ARE IN AGREEMENT THAT THERE IS A

NEW TESTAMENT/Covenant.

THEY ARE DISAGREEING AS TO WHO THE NEW TESTAMENT/Covenant IS FOR…..

THEMSELVES (YOU) OR THE MANY.

(I HATE TO BE A JERK!)

BUT THE ACCOUNTS GIVEN OF THE “LAST SUPPER” BY THE SYNOPTIC GOSPELS IN THE NEW TESTAMENT (NT as opposed to the OT)

DIFFER A GREAT DEAL AS TO THIS “NEW TESTAMENT/Covenant” AND ARE WORLDS APART FROM THE GOSPEL OF JOHN

SINCE this “New Testament”

DOESN’T EVEN OCCUR IN THE GOSPEL OF JOHN.

THE PRAYER AND THE DIALOGUE OF JESUS WITH HIS DISCIPLES

HAPPENS ONLY IN THE GOSPEL OF JOHN AND THERE IS QUITE A BIT OF INFORMATION GIVEN!

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Another point by Paul Carlson in his article  below, I get the impression that Paul Carlson thinks that all of the contradictions that are contained in the NT makes everything written about Jesus a lie and that is not my point!

I don’t believe that!

I think Jesus the Messiah did come and so did false messiahs and their many supporters

to quell the truth against Him and His true apostles

for money, power and control.

It’s like saying, for example, that the  September 11th terrorist attack on the Twin Terrors weren’t destroyed because 3 or 4 witnesses/terrorists don’t tell the same story, hence it’s all a lie and the Twin Towers are still there. That is ridiculous! But that is the point in having contradictions so that some people will come to that conclusion! Obviously, the Twin Towers were destroyed and something very big happened, because they are no longer there.

Deception is in the bible purposefully

to deceive

and to reveal!

In other words, it works both ways!

An oxymoron (plural oxymorons or oxymora) (from Greek ὀξύμωρον, “sharp dull”) is a figure of speechthat combines contradictory terms. Oxymorons appear in a variety of contexts, including inadvertent errors such as extremely average and literary oxymorons crafted to reveal a paradox.

Truth is a funny thing, because it is quite possible these contradictions were said

and did actually happen

…..but by who?

Why don’t the experts and scholars of the bible raise the possibility of what seems to be written in black and white in the bible? I get the impression they are hiding from what seems to be obvious …….

but why?

When Jesus came it made such a stir that Jerusalem was destroyed and their temple, Rome was destroyed and Jerusalem was destroyed again 65 years later. Jesus was big news and his coming had major ramifications! And I believe his enemies made sure of the destruction. propaganda and deception to cover up the truth! History was rewritten to hide the truth and many people were slaughtered!

People that lived under the rule of the Romans were slaughtered when they wrote anything that would make the Romans look bad. And I am convinced those times are coming again soon. So when you read Josephus and other writers, keep in mind that they could lose their lives for what they wrote and so maybe there are hidden meanings to their stories. Contradictions may abound in the bible and in the history given by the major history authors (Josephus included, even though his accounts seem to be false IMO) to point us to the truth while avoiding the threat of death for us to be able to discern via archeology and other avenues and the unfolding, at the right time! Possibly the power that caused so much destruction was something other than just the Romans, because they also suffered and suffer now, because they lack the truth and are deceived…..they just don’t realize it!

Daniel 7:25

And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High,

and think to change times and laws:

and they shall be given into his hand

until

time and times and the dividing of time.

I think that is what is meant by the words “time and times and the dividing of times” is what has been written about that time and the deception about those times.


I think we are in the times prophesied by Daniel and specifically

the “Dividing of time”.


Please read the following fantastic article I found on the internet which is linked next:

The Reliance of Luke-Acts on the Writings of Flavius Josephus

…..”So, Steve Mason, associate Professor of Humanities at York University, Ontario asks:

“If Luke did not know of Josephus’ work, how did this language suggest itself to him?”[5]….


Daniel is talking about he, the prince that was to come,

the prince that Jesus warns us about in the gospel of John.

So when you link to this site below by Paul Carlson and/or read my articles that talk about contradictions in the bible

keep in mind that just because there are contradictions

doesn’t mean it did not occur!

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New Testament Contradictions (1995)

Paul Carlson

A. WHEN – BEFORE OR DURING PASSOVER?

“…….In Matthew, Mark and Luke the last supper takes place on the first day of the Passover (Matthew 26:17, Mark 14:12, Luke 22:7).

In John’s gospel it takes place a day earlier and Jesus is crucified on the first day of the Passover (John 19:14).…….”

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The Blood Covenant at the Last Supper

in the Synoptic Gospels seems to be a bit odd

since Jesus had not died yet!


I know I must seem like I’m just quibbling about small details,

(although they are not small to me)

but

since it is a contract

it seems to me it should be very clear and concise!


All I can tell is that this NEW TESTAMENT/covenant

is for “many”

or for


“you” which was “them” (the disciples sitting at the table).


Why the controversy?

Can’t they even agree on what the “New Testament” /covenant is,

and who it is between,

and what it is for?


The reason this is so IMPORTANT to me is that I have found many problems in the Synoptic Gospels

and have an inclination

to distrust their word of the Word.

New Testament

the collection of the books of the Bible that were produced by the early Christian church, comprising the Gospels, Acts of the Apostles, the Epistles, and the Revelation of St. John the Divine.
the covenant between god and humans in which the dispensation of grace is revealed through Jesus Christ
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Could the

“Covenant with many”

spoken about by Daniel be the

“Covenant with many”

made at the Last Supper

in the Synoptic Gospels?


Makes sense to me!


If so, then who confirms this covenant?


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Whoever confirms this covenant could be the “he” in verse Daniel 9:27

In my last article on another blog, I wrote called Abomination of Desolation: Part one

(which is also linked here and at the bottom of this post)

the Synoptic Jesus in the Gospels of Matthew and Luke

talks about desolation:

Matthew 23:38

Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.

Luke 13:35

Behold, your house is left unto you desolate:

and verily I say unto you,

Ye shall not see me, until the time come when ye shall say,

Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.


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They themselves

(The Synoptic Gospels of Matthew, Mark and Luke)

testify to the

“Desolation” and a “Covenant with Many”

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Remember:

the Covenant is not in tbe Gospel of John

nor is desolation mentioned.


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Daniel 9:26
26And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
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Daniel 9:27
27And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
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Whoever that prince is that “he” is referring to is the one that causes the sacrifice and the oblation to cease., etc
after the Messiah is cut off.

I believe it is the the same prince that Jesus of the Gospel of John warns us about:
Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.
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Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh,

and hath nothing in me.

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From the sounds of His warnings the prince of this world would be coming very soon,
not waiting 2000 years later!
I assume that is why Jesus says NOW twice.
“Now” could have a double meaning?
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The first time you hear about the prince of this world (in the Gospel of John)
is at the Jewish Feast in Jerusalem
after Jesus had raised Lazarus from the dead in Bethany when the Greeks arrive to that Jewish Feast to see Jesus.
I think that was a sign about this prince of this world.


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I believe that the Covenant at the Last Supper was made with the prince of this world,
and he broke the covenant and desolation occurred.

I DO NOT BELIEVE GOD THE FATHER OR HIS TRUE SON ARE LIARS!
I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT JESUS OF NAZARETH WRITTEN ABOUT IN THE GOSPEL OF JOHN
WOULD MAKE A COVENANT AND THEN BREAK IT
AND THEN CAUSE DESOLATION
SO THEREFORE WHOEVER DOES THIS IS THE LIAR
AND IS NOT THE TRUE MESSIAH!!!!!

The reason I believe this is because this Covenant at the Last Supper
is not in the Gospel of John
and John does not mention it later in his gospel.

The only gospels to mention desolation are two of the Synoptic Gospels

in the past tense:


Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.
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Behold, your house is left unto you desolate:
and verily I say unto you,
Ye shall not see me, until the time come when ye shall say,Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.
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Here are some interesting comparisons of Paul and Josephus.
PLEASE READ:

Flavious Josephus And the Apostle Paul Were the Same Person?, page 1

and there are many more examples which I have included in other articles about
Josephus Flavius and Joseph of Arimathea.
PLEASE READ:
Maybe if we looked at things a bit differently, events like Masada and Yodfat and the discrepancies of the archeological evidence vs. Josephus Flavius’s historical account
might make more sense…….
Perhaps since no evidence of Jewish bones have been found at the site of Masada
could there have been a resurrection of the living?
I don’t know of course, but it is worth considering!

Josephus Flavius’s historical account and the archeological evidence do NOT match,
so I wonder what really did happen at Masada and Yodfat
and why would Josephus make up stories of mass suicide of JEWS!
that seems to have not happened at all?
If a mass suicide did not occur, why would Josephus lie about it???
Is he trying to promote suicide as a heroic sacrificial act for Jews or is he trying to infer their inferiority?
What would be the point?
He did seem to turn on his own country and people from what I have read about him and by him,
if, in fact, he was Jewish?
But then wasn’t HITLER Jewish? And we do not want to forget that lesson!
Or was he leaving us clues???
Why would he lie about it?
If there had been a victory by the Romans
why not write about it?

From his writings. he seemed to be kind of sick in the head or had some kind of deep insanity. His accounts of what happened show lots of inside information, even what people were actually thinking
and he seemed to be in charge !!!
His paranoia may be a result of knowing the thoughts of the people and their plots against him.
If you read his works they are quite descriptive of maniacal sadistic manipulative type behavior
and he seemed to enjoy the destruction and the deceptions of the people!


It must be that he is trying to hide who he is!


WHY?


Could Josephus Flavius be the “prince” ?


Could he have rewritten history and written the Synoptic Gospels (Matthew, Mark and Luke)
to cover up the truth
about Jesus of Nazareth
and replace himself
as the Messiah?
IE
THE DEVIL
Could he have taken the records in the Temple in Jerusalem as he says he did,
rewritten parts of the OT to bolster his Synoptic Gospels,
composed other books from The Book of ACTS and the rest?
Could he have changed the Genealogy records or destroyed them as others say they no longer exist to cover up
WHO HE REALLY IS?


Could he have been the one to make a covenant with many?


Could Josephus be Cephus?


Makes sense to me!

THE STONE

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Could Josephus Flavius Son of Matthew be Joseph of ARIMathea

(ARI means lion. and eagle)

Ari is also a very GREEK name.
ARISTOTLE

Jacqueline Kennedy married Aristotle Onassis which in itself seems very odd when you think about it!
Especially since recently ART of New Wineskins with *his propaganda site* IMO
implied that the head wound of the beast spoken about in Revelation
was President Kennedy’s assassination and that President Barrack Obama’s head vein?/scar? had something to do with this prophecy!
The Devil and his legions are in a hurry for lots and lots of reasons!

Since finishing this post today,
I have watched some you-tubes of the moments of President Kennedy’s assassination, because of what I have been learning and writing and it looks pretty scary. I have seen them a hundred times before and always gave Jacky the benefit of doubt because she is a female, very pretty, soft spoken and his wife,
but Jacqueline’s behavior before and after, are disconcerting to say the least!

Here is what I see NOW:
She is fiddling with him as he is shot the first time, then Connelly looks back and she looks at Connelly and he is shot, she looks back at her husband and gets closer and under him and he is shot again and the blood spray goes up, then
it looks as if she has something in her right hand after the second shot.
Possibly, lost that object when she pushed her husband over and fled to the trunk of the car to get whatever was back there,and it looks like a tube of lipstick because of the way it stays on the trunk of the car. She pursues it on the trunk of the car and gets it and gets back and hunches down with everyone else.
*April 2nd 2011 Just watched this video again a few times and it looks like she is the only one that seems to be busy …..very active….and in control…….everyone else seems to be reacting.
Everyone else seems to be in slow motion and she is in very fast motion.
Whoever her focus is on seems to be before that person is shot! IMO
Which is very disturbing!


Here is the video:

And the Secret Service act peculiar in the front seat, the driver and the passenger and the guy that left his post at the back corner  by President Kennedy.

But WHO knows with digital mastering and all of the coverups!

The same applies to Mel Gibson and the tapes of his rantings. My husband is a sound engineer and voices can also be spliced and diced and altered …….digitally mastered. It isn’t as if he doesn’t have plenty of emotional voice samples in all of the movies he has been involved with.
WHO knows!
I just would not place much faith in visual or sound technology.
I hope it isn’t a technique or practice employed to defame, destroy and rob individuals who have money, influence or sway,
but aren’t in alignment with the
One World Government, One World Religion, and One World Finance
fostered by Pope Benedict XVI and his legions.


THAT WOULD BE A NIGHTMARE
but maybe it is a warning and a sign of things to come!

Another time and on another post I watched a you-tube which also showed

peculiar behavior of the Secret Service


and that was behind Donald Rumsfeld when he misspoke

about the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.

This is the post:

“A very interesting you -tube I watched recently of Donald Rumsfeld slip of the tongue, and I have linked it. Pay close attention to what he says about the the shooting down of the plane and the Pentagon and the reaction of the people in the background. Makes me think the Secret Service are a bit more powerful than I ever imagined. The Treasury Department runs the Secret Service. That is interesting since we are in debt up to our EARS. President Bush SR used to head the CIA. Hmmmmmmmmm. I wonder if Rumsfeld didn’t do that on purpose for our benefit? You never know! I hope so.”

The article below shows the relationship of banking

with the Synoptic Gospels, Paul, Josephus and BAAL!

1 Timothy 6:10
For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.

Please Read:

The Synoptic “Q Source”

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What we do know is that

President John Kennedy

was killed because of his posture and his actions

exposing

SECRET SOCIETIES.


Time is our ally.


Please read about the head wound below:

Many people keep looking for a place called Arimathea, and so far there is none.

Could Josephus Flavius/Joseph of ARI-Mathea have been the Fear of the Jews?

Could Saul/Paul be Josephus Flavius?

1 Corinthians 3:22

22Whether Paul, or Apollos, or Cephas,

or the world,

or life, or death,

or things present, or things to come;

all are your’s;

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John 14:30

Hereafter I will not talk much with you:

for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.

[and compare to what Paul says]

1 Corinthians 16:24
My love be with you all in Christ Jesus. Amen.

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Below Saul/Paul contradicts himself:
and then following Paul tricks people:

2 Corinthians 11:31
The God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which is blessed for evermore, knoweth that I lie not.
2 Corinthians 12:16
But be it so, I did not burden you: nevertheless, being crafty,

I caught you

with guile.

Guile

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If you read his history of the Jews and Josephus’s biography it’s almost like he is writing about the underworld,
or the world of the dead.
The spiritual world.
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A lot of the names and events seem to parallel Acts and I don’t think it’s accidental!
He seems to relish the people being deceived!
THE DEVIL ENJOYS DECEPTION!
Could Josephus Flavius have been as a
Dr. Jekyl and Mr. Hyde
with

MANY OTHER NAMES

I don’t think we should ignore his writings, but rather compare his style and details to the events in the bible!

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Other sites of interest in regard to old and recent covenants:
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My last *four posts that I believe relate to the subject of the covenant follow:

*Abomination of Desolation: Part one

*The Abomination of Desolation Part 2

*In The Garden of Gethsemane

*Sour Wine

Josephus and His Footprints

CONFIRMATION OF THE COVENANT

The Fruits of the Vatican

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Here is a recent Covenant with Many that might be of interest:

Magen David Adom Covenant

– The value of saving lives as seen by the three religions, will be presented to the Pope

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I Am That I Am (The Sign) -Revised *

I AM THAT I AM (Part two)


I Am the True Vine


If you have read any of my articles I have a basic theme throughout most of my posts on my blogs and it is that the Synoptic (Gospels of Matthew, Mark and Luke), Acts and many other epistles are false! I believe they represent a false Messiah and a False Prophet! I believe I have proven beyond a reasonable doubt quite often that they contradict each other and are antithetical to the gospel of John. They promote a political agenda to control the people and quell the truth about Jesus and his message.I think the synoptic gospels were written by thieves of the true Word of God and his true apostles.

I believe these guys killed the true apostles, stole what they could from them, altered their messages, rewrote history to cover up their crime, in collusion with the the powers that be at the time to create their own version of Jesus and God.

The contradictions are pretty apparent if you compare the gospels to each other and read the bible critically. For many years, I didn’t study, but just read what other people thought and still kept running into a cement wall. I don’t think I have all the answers, yet nor do I think I will attain that ever in my lifetime. I write in my blogs as I am learning and hope it will help others that have also questioned the same things I question that is written about God and Jesus.

I don’t think it is healthy to accept what we have been fed for years as “the truth” I think it is healthier to question, study and discuss. I don’t think the ecclesiastic entity appreciates our freedom to question it’s authority on their interpretation of what is written in the bible but who said they have the right to quell our search for the truth? To them it is Apostacy,,,the falling away…. I say it is Apostacy from them, and falling away from them. They think they have the answers…..

I dont think they have the answers, so thats why I write my blogs. Enuf said on that!


 

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How is it That Ye Do Not Understand?


MARK 8:13-21

13And he left them, and entering into the ship again departed to the other side.14Now the disciples had forgotten to take bread, neither had they in the ship with them more than one loaf.

15And he charged them, saying, Take heed, beware of the leaven of the Pharisees, and of the leaven of Herod.16And they reasoned among themselves, saying,

It is because we have no bread.

17And when Jesus knew it, he saith unto them, Why reason ye, because ye have no bread? perceive ye not yet, neither understand? have ye your heart yet hardened?18Having eyes, see ye not? and having ears, hear ye not?

and do ye not remember?19When I brake the five loaves among five thousand, how many baskets full of fragments took ye up? They say unto him, Twelve.

20And when the seven among four thousand, how many baskets full of fragments took ye up? And they said, Seven.

21And he said unto them,
How is it that ye do not understand?

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Someone please tell me what this means!

Is this a trick question?

I hate to sound mean but I think this rendition of Jesus sounds maniacal!

I’ll tell you the truth, I don’t and never have understood what the above means!

I have never perceived, understood, nor seen, neither remembered anyone that does get what the above means!

I don’t think it means anything!  Do you?

(For the longest time I thought this was a mathematical poser.)

The point is he doesn’t want you to understand. It is a mock of Jesus, his disciples, the miracle of feeding of the 5000 etc and

mocking the gospel of John!

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Lets take these verses a few at a time and figure out what the Synoptic Jesus is trying to swerve:

1)Did they have bread or not?
Obviously, they did have bread because verse 14 states that they had a loaf of bread! So someone is contradicting himself  just in the above verses! They must not have realized that they had bread, because they ask within themselves is it because we have no bread, when they had a loaf of bread.

2) Does the Synoptic Jesus know that they had a loaf of bread?

 Either the Synoptic Jesus doesn’t know that they had a loaf of bread, or he is lying and using his power of suggestion to make them think that they don’t have bread when in actuality they had a loaf of bread as verse 14 states. (If they had a loaf of bread on the ship….why didn’t the Synoptic Jesus know it? If the Synoptic Jesus knew that there was a loaf of bread on the ship why didn’t he just tell them that they had a loaf of bread on the ship?)

3) Is the Synoptic Jesus berating the disciples?

Definitely! The Synoptic Jesus is very good at creating chaos and confusion. He loves to make them look stupid and make himself look oh so smart when in reality he is crazy, but he is so crazy he doesn’t know that he is crazy. (Reminds me of OBAMA.) 

For if he were in his right mind he would say.

Hey guys, there is a loaf of bread on the ship as verse 14 states.

4)What does the leaven of the Pharisees and the leaven of Herod have to do with whether or not they had taken bread?

Nothing.  Just propaganda, I’m sure!  In these verses Jesus is saying to beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and Herod and they say, Is it because we have no bread? when they did have bread.

It makes no sense! It is inane.

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The feeding of the four thousand is not in the gospel of John

and it is not in the Gospel of Luke.

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Diminishing Jesus written about in the Gospel of John

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John 6:51
I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.

He is the bread that came down from Heaven. So either the Synoptic disciples did not believe that he was the living bread and did not believe the Gospel of John or the Synoptic Jesus forgot to tell them that he was the living bread or he did not know himself that he was the living bread,

or the Synoptic Gospels  are full of HOT AIR

otherwise they would make sense!

This is proof that the Synoptic Jesus is trying to confuse!

Since Jesus is the bread of life and he taught his disciples this concept

in the Gospel of John

why wouldn’t Jesus in the Gospel of Mark just remind them?

Because Jesus of the Gospel of Mark is not the same person

as Jesus of the Gospel of John.

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Paul wrote 1Corinthians or so the scholars say:

1 Corinthians 2:9

But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.

Isaiah 64:4
For since the beginning of the world men have not heard, nor perceived by the ear, neither hath the eye seen, O God, beside thee, what he hath prepared for him that waiteth for him.

Compare to the verses in the Gospel of Mark:

17And when Jesus knew it, he saith unto them, Why reason ye, because ye have no bread? perceive ye not yet, neither understandhave ye your heart yet hardened?18Having eyes, see ye not? and having ears, hear ye not?

and do ye not remember?19When I brake the five loaves among five thousand, how many baskets full of fragments took ye up? They say unto him, Twelve.

Did Paul write the Gospel of Mark and Isaiah or did he just add to them?

Maybe. Certainly “his own hand” is in them or someone at the very least that is imitating him.

Josephus Flavius admitted to stealing the Holy Books from the Temple

and took them to Rome of all places

maybe he did it.

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How is it that ye do not understand?

The point is he doesn’t want them to understand!

But as usual he betrays himself: 

Paul was identified with being the Greek-speaking Egyptian that led 4000 murderers in the wilderness in the book of Acts.

Acts 21:38

Art not thou that Egyptian, which before these days madest an uproar,

and leddest out into the wilderness four thousand men that were murderers?

The point I’m making is that

 Paul is the Synoptic Jesus!

This is proof that the Synoptic Jesus is trying to confuse!

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Megan Kelly of Fox News just said that two Senators now believe that the Sequester is responsible for the bomb blast at the Boston Marathon in Massachusetts which is absolutely ridiculous as is this post demonstrates.

Same kind of ridiculous and insane delusion.

It is not a coincidence that the Newtowners were at this event near where the explosions occurred. I would look into why they were put there and by whom, etc. There were bomb sniffing dogs around and they did not smell the bombs at the beginning of the race  in those areas so that ought to be a big clue.

I’m suspicious of drone usage and involvement.

If you watch drone attacks on line it could easily be altered to mimic a rough bomb

and it makes sense that it is.

Why?

Because the Obama administration said they would not use drone attacks on Americans on American soil.

This is more deadly distraction for Obama and his legion which is his M.O.

Now they have their sites on a bag in front of the fence line at the Marathon yet very few people were affected on that side of the fence line ie the runners. Obviously it was not that bag. On Sean Hannity of Fox News I watched some films as closely as I could (they are pretty quick films) and there was a hole made by something in the middle of the spectators area that was affected which is consistent with a drone strike but people overseas don’t lose their limbs when a drone strikes them, right? If it was in the trash can that was on the outside of the fence line it also would have affected the runners……doesn’t add up

and as far as Napolitan’s suggestion that there is no broader plot

….can you believe anything she says?

Isn’t she the lady lying about ammunition.

DHS excuses for buying so much ammo don’t add up

J. D. Heyes
Natural News

March 27, 2013

Just move along, folks. There’s nothing to see here.

That’s the attitude of the Department of Homeland Security chief Janet Napolitano when it comes to scrutiny of her agency’s massive purchase requests for billions – that’s right, billions – of rounds of ammunition, along with 7,000 “personal defense weapons” (they would be called assault weapons if owned by private citizens), and 2,700 mine-resistant, ambush-protected (MRAP) armored vehicles of the type used to protect troops in Iraq and Afghanistan from improvised explosive devices (IEDs).

Which is what this explosive at the Marathon is being described as

is an IED.

Possibly this is about the Sequester in a perverted kind of way!’

Course the press won’t even question anyone about the difference of the appearance of the two men at Benghazi the one that they claim is Ambassador Chris Stevens and is not.

So I guess they would believe that a bag in front of the fence line that affected the people behind the fence line and not the ones in front of the fence line would be the incendiary bomb, because they have their thinking caps on.

Also a friend just mentioned to me that in the comparisons of the pictures of the bag in front of the fence line before and after the explosion one picture has a man hole cover and the other picture does not yet they are supposed to be of the same scene.

So to put it another way

they are lying.

SO if anyone ridicules the public for suspicion of conspiracy they are liars because obviously conspiracies have been occurring for a long time. Why in the world did the clergy not inform us of these contradictions in the bible? Why do they say that the gospels harmonize?

You can learn quite a bit from Walter Veith if interested in learning about the deception most of the world is mired in. I found his you tubes to be of great value and I hope if you want to start getting a real grasp of knowledge you might start there. There are many other sites with his works besides the following but this set of you tubes ought to help quite a bit.

He is prolific, entertaining, honest, and interesting:

Walter Veith: Total Onslaught Series

He is a former Catholic, a scientist, and a teacher:

Who is Walter Veith?

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Tell No Man

Salute No Man

Why Callest Thou Me Good?

 The Fig Tree – Blessed are the Barren

Folly of the Synoptic Gospels

America Land of the Nuns and Dishtowels

Other Blogs of Mine:

Merangue’s Blog,    Blue Skies,    Eye of a Needle,    My Merlon

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In The Garden of Gethsemane


Part one: The Prayers in the Garden

Matthew 26:36-46

36Then cometh Jesus with them unto a place called Gethsemane, and saith unto the disciples, Sit ye here, while I go and pray yonder.37And he took with him Peter and the two sons of Zebedee, and began to be sorrowful and very heavy.38Then saith he unto them, My soul is exceeding sorrowful, even unto death: tarry ye here, and watch with me.

Mark 14:32-34

32And they came to a place which was named Gethsemane: and he saith to his disciples, Sit ye here, while I shall pray.33And he taketh with him Peter and James and John, and began to be sore amazed, and to be very heavy;34And saith unto them, My soul is exceeding sorrowful unto death: tarry ye here, and watch.

Both Matthew and Mark say essentially the same thing!

Luke 22:35-40

35And he said unto them, When I sent you without purse, and scrip, and shoes, lacked ye any thing? And they said, Nothing.36Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.

The reason for the contradiction is he has to lay the guilt of the arrest of Jesus Christ on Jesus Christ himself : for sedition

Jesus Christ did not tell his disciples to buy a sword!

And Luke was not a disciple of Jesus Christ and was not present in the garden to know what Jesus said and has come up with this story out of thin air!

37For I say unto you, that this that is written must yet be accomplished in me, And he was reckoned (weighed) among the transgressors:

for the things concerning me have an end.

38And they said, Lord, behold, here are two swords.

And he said unto them,

It is enough.

This is a parady of the last words Jesus said before he died when He said:

It is finished.

By the way, the things concerning Jesus of Nazareth do not have an end!

It is only wishful thinking outloud from Luke the follower of Saul/Paul and their “way”  which looks more and more like they are against the truth and they are the ones that weigh us.

The apostles of the false Christ from the Land of Synopsia

use their swords to slice and dice men, 

Jesus of Nazareth and his chosen apostles!

They are antithetical in their three gospels

and other books in the New Testament about

Jesus Christ in the gospel of John!

39And he came out, and went, as he was wont, to the mount of Olives; and his disciples also followed him.40And when he was at the place, he said unto them,

Pray that ye enter not into temptation.

Just out of nowhere Jesus says: Pray that ye enter not into temptation.

Again, making Jesus sound really weird!

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Prayer Number One

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Matthew 26:39-41

39And he went a little farther, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt.40And he cometh unto the disciples, and findeth them asleep, and saith unto Peter, What, could ye not watch with me one hour?41Watch and pray, that ye enter not into temptation: the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak.

Mark 14:35-38

35And he went forward a little, and fell on the ground, and prayed that, if it were possible, the hour might pass from him.36And he said, Abba, Father, all things are possible unto thee; take away this cup from me: nevertheless not what I will, but what thou wilt.37And he cometh, and findeth them sleeping, and saith unto Peter, Simon, sleepest thou? couldest not thou watch one hour?38Watch ye and pray, lest ye enter into temptation. The spirit truly is ready, but the flesh is weak.

Luke 22:41-46

41And he was withdrawn from them about a stone’s cast, and kneeled down, and prayed,42Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done.43And there appeared an angel unto him from heaven, strengthening him.44And being in an agony he prayed more earnestly: and his sweat was as it were great drops of blood falling down to the ground.45And when he rose up from prayer, and was come to his disciples, he found them sleeping for sorrow,46And said unto them, Why sleep ye? rise and pray, lest ye enter into temptation.

It is hard to enter into temptation when asleep and besides they were not asleep as the gospel of John tells.

Why in the world would they be sleeping in a garden in Gethsamane with their two swords that they armed themselves with before entering the garden anyway

(as Luke says earlier).

This is so ridiculous and fakey!

Luke says an angel appeared unto him from heaven to strengthen Jesus, but the other two synoptic gospels (Matthew and Mark) do NOT mention an angel. 

As I said a while ago, Luke was not there, so the angel comes from his own imagination!

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Prayer Number Two

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Matthew 26:42-43

42He went away again the second time, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if this cup may not pass away from me, except I drink it, thy will be done.43And he came and found them asleep again: for their eyes were heavy.

Mark 14:39-40

39And again he went away, and prayed, and spake the same words.40And when he returned, he found them asleep again, (for their eyes were heavy,) neither wist they what to answer him.

Both Matthew and Mark say that Jesus went back a second time to pray for the cup to pass away from him! But in the gospel of John when Jesus was in Jerusalem for the Jewish Feast and he says:

John 12:27

27Now is my soul troubled; and what shall I say? Father, save me from this hour: but for this cause came I unto this hour.

Jesus was not trying to escape the reason he came!

He is telling us in John 12:27 that others will say that he asks to be saved from this hour are not witnesses! All three synoptic gospels (Matthew, Mark and Luke) are agreed in this representation and have obviously misplaced this quote to another event and placed it in the garden and it has something to do with the Covenant with Many made in their rendition of the “Last Supper.” John does not include the Covenant with Many made in the Last Supper about drinking the fruit of the vine until the Kingdom of God has come.

Must be that the mysterious “Q” source told them to say it.

The Synoptic “Q Source”

I don’t believe the synoptic gospels (Matthew, Mark and Luke) of what happened in the garden, because Jesus said that was why he came to this hour was to glorify the name of God. Which he did at the feast in Jerusalem:

John 12:28

28Father, glorify thy name. Then came there a voice from heaven, saying, I have both glorified it, and will glorify it again.

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Prayer Number Three

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Matthew 26:44-46

44And he left them, and went away again, and prayed the third time, saying the same words 45Then cometh he to his disciples, and saith unto them, Sleep on now, and take your rest: behold, the hour is at hand, and the Son of man is betrayed into the hands of sinners. 46Rise, let us be going: behold, he is at hand that doth betray me.

Mark 14:41-42

41And he cometh the third time, and saith unto them, Sleep on now, and take your rest: it is enough, the hour is come; behold, the Son of man is betrayed into the hands of sinners.42Rise up, let us go; lo, he that betrayeth me is at hand.

Both Matthew and Mark say that Jesus tells his disciples to sleep on and then tells them to rise.  They should have asked him “what do you want us to do? Sleep or rise?”

They make Jesus sound skitszoid!

Luke has no more to say about when Jesus prayed in the garden. Matthew says Jesus prayed a second time and a third time for the cup to pass from him. Mark only says he prayed a second time and a third time all the while the disciples were asleep. Does that include Mark? If he was asleep, how would he know? Luke doesn’t mention a second and a third prayer time. And to top it off……they were not there!

All verses are pretty similar but in Matthew Jesus fell on his face, and in Mark Jesus fell on the ground and in Luke Jesus kneels down to pray. Luke, who adds an angel, agony, and great drops of  sweat. Of course, they are all asleep so how would he know of the angel and drops of blood-like sweat and the agony. If Jesus was doing this would not that wake up the disciples, but they were asleep. I imagine if there were an angel visibly there they would be wide awake, but they were asleep.

Does not make sense! 

All three of the gospels of Matthew, Mark and Luke say that Jesus is praying for the cup to be taken from him, but in the gospel of John this does not happen at all, in fact, Jesus had already prayed (chapter 17 Gospel of John) at the site of the Last Supper. We know Luke was not there, Mark was not there, and Matthew was not there since they missed out on the dialogue at the Last Supper and the prayer.

Jesus was not asking for the cup to be taken from him in the prayer at the Last Supper. John mentions no prayer at the garden but, of course, John and Peter and whoever was in the garden were supposed to be sleeping. Jesus knew what was going to happen. He is the spirit of prophecy as he says in Revelation.

Why do these other three gospels add this blarney when they were not there at the garden or the supper?

I like Shakespeare, but this is ridiculous.

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Part Two: The Kiss and the Arrest

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Matthew 26:47-48

47And while he yet spake, lo, Judas, one of the twelve, came,

and with him a great multitude with swords and staves,

from the chief priests and elders of the people

.48Now he that betrayed him gave them a sign, saying, Whomsoever I shall kiss, that same is he: hold him fast.49And forthwith he came to Jesus, and said, Hail, master; and kissed him.

Sounds like Judas was Roman!

Mark 14:43-44

43And immediately, while he yet spake, cometh Judas, one of the twelve, and with him a great multitude with swords and staves, from the chief priests and the scribes and the elders.44And he that betrayed him had given them a token, saying, Whomsoever I shall kiss, that same is he; take him, and lead him away safely.45And as soon as he was come, he goeth straightway to him, and saith, Master, master; and kissed him.

How would Mark know what Judas said? Mark says that Judas says to lead him away safely and Matthew says: hold him fast after Judas kisses Jesus!

Matthew says Judas says Hail Master and Mark says Judas says Master, master.

Luke 22:47-48

47And while he yet spake, behold a multitude, and he that was called Judas, one of the twelve, went before them, and drew near unto Jesus to kiss him.48But Jesus said unto him, Judas, betrayest thou the Son of man with a kiss?

That is what Matthew, Mark and Luke seem to be saying is that Judas betrays Jesus with a kiss! Jesus already knew Judas was going to betray him. He said it a bunch at dinner and in the gospel of Matthew 3 times before that. It wasn’t as if Jesus did not know that Judas was going to betray him! This kiss business is so contrived! Jesus knew who would betray him way before the betrayer knew. He also knew if he would kiss him or not and Jesus never prophecies a kiss from the betrayer.  HMMMMMM!

Why not?

I guess the authors of Matthew, Mark and Luke forgot to do that!

THE “Q” SOURCE FORGOT TO TELL MATTHEW, MARK AND LUKE.

Please read my post that I have linked:

An Holy Kiss

They betray themselves with their sign: an holy kiss!

Wasn’t it the Synoptic gospels

that said no sign would be given?

Well let’s check:

Matthew 16:3
And in the morning, It will be foul weather to day: for the sky is red and lowering. O ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky; but can ye not discern the signs of the times?

Matthew 16:4
A wicked and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given unto it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas. And he left them, and departed.

Mark 8:12
And he sighed deeply in his spirit, and saith, Why doth this generation seek after a sign? verily I say unto you, There shall no sign be given unto this generation.

Luke 2:12
And this shall be a sign unto you; Ye shall find the babe wrapped in swaddling clothes, lying in a manger.

Luke 2:34
And Simeon blessed them, and said unto Mary his mother, Behold, this child is set for the fall and rising again of many in Israel; and for a sign which shall be spoken against;

Luke 11:29
And when the people were gathered thick together, he began to say, This is an evil generation: they seek a sign; and there shall no sign be given it, but the sign of Jonas the prophet.

Luke 11:30
For as Jonas was a sign unto the Ninevites, so shall also the Son of man be to this generation.

So was the sign of the kiss from Judas in the Garden

the same sign as the sign of the prophet Jonas?

Was the sign of the prophet Jonas the sign of

the baby Jesus in swaddling clothes in a manger?

The Synoptic Gospels are a mess!

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Part Three:  One of Them That Smote the Ear

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Matthew 26:50-51

50And Jesus said unto him, Friend, wherefore art thou come? Then came they, and laid hands on Jesus and took him.51And, behold, one of them which were with Jesus stretched out his hand, and drew his sword, and struck a servant of the high priest’s, and smote off his ear.

Mark 14:46-47

46And they laid their hands on him, and took him.47And one of them that stood by drew a sword, and smote a servant of the high priest, and cut off his ear.

Luke 22:49-51

49When they which were about him saw what would follow, they said unto him, Lord, shall we smite with the sword?50And one of them smote the servant of the high priest, and cut off his right ear.51And Jesus answered and said, Suffer ye thus far. And he touched his ear, and healed him.

Luke set this up earlier in his gospel when he said that Jesus told his disciples to buy a sword, so I’m surprised he doesn’t say who it is that smote the ear! But he does say that they asked whether they shall smite with the sword.

This is so unreal!

All three synoptic gospels say it was one of them that smote the ear, so I guess they don’t know which one of them it is!

Doesn’t sound like they are in the know!

Only the gospel of Luke says that Jesus healed the ear.

Luke wasn’t there!

He doesn’t know who smote the ear, but he knows Jesus healed the ear yet no one else notices Jesus healing the ear.

Perhaps Luke or Paul is Malchus?

In depictions of Paul there is always one ear missing or a covering of one ear. ( At least that is what I have noticed IN MY STUDIES AND EXPLORATION.)

Sounds an awful lot like Jackie Kennedy’s amnesia of leaping to the trunk of the car, but knowing why she did. To get brain parts when in actuality it looks an awful lot like a hard tube rolling, Maybe caps from a weapon? Not to mention failing to tell about the puppet she received over the fence line at the airport 1/2 hour before the assassination of JFK, but musing as to why someone would give her red roses as she arrived in Dallas. What is so odd about receiving red roses? Jackie Kennedy had lots of selective memories!   Back to the Gospel of Matthew:

Matthew 26:52-54

52Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword.53Thinkest thou that I cannot now pray to my Father, and he shall presently give me more than twelve legions of angels?54But how then shall the scriptures be fulfilled, that thus it must be?

Legion is a roman military term!

Only the three synoptic gospels speak about legion and legions, but mostly in reference to demons! Here is a post about Legions and demons:

Chief Priests and the Legion – Revised

Part Four:  Disciples Forsook Him


Matthew 26:55-56

55In that same hour said Jesus to the multitudes, Are ye come out as against a thief with swords and staves for to take me? I sat daily with you teaching in the temple, and ye laid no hold on me.56But all this was done, that the scriptures of the prophets might be fulfilled.Then all the disciples forsook him, and fled.

Of course thats what they were doing, and Jesus knew it! Why did Jesus ask when he already knew that they came out as against a thief with swords and staves to take him?

Again, the synoptic gospels have made nonsense of the truth and betray themselves!

Mark 14:48-52

48And Jesus answered and said unto them, Are ye come out, as against a thief, with swords and with staves to take me?49I was daily with you in the temple teaching, and ye took me not: but the scriptures must be fulfilled.50And they all forsook him, and fled.

51And there followed him a certain young man, having a linen cloth cast about his naked body; and the young men laid hold on him:52And he left the linen cloth, and fled from them naked.

This is a very strange addition to the story! I really don’t understand the meaning of it,

but I am sure the intent to deceive is written all over it!

Kind of makes me think of the Shroud of Turin!

Luke 22:52-53

52Then Jesus said unto the chief priests, and captains of the temple, and the elders, which were come to him, Be ye come out, as against a thief, with swords and staves?53When I was daily with you in the temple, ye stretched forth no hands against me: but this is your hour, and the power of darkness.

Part Five:  Peter Follows

Matthew 26:57-58

57And they that had laid hold on Jesus led him away to Caiaphas the high priest, where the scribes and the elders were assembled.58But Peter followed him afar off unto the high priest’s palace, and went in, and sat with the servants, to see the end.

Mark 14:53-54

53And they led Jesus away to the high priest: and with him were assembled all the chief priests and the elders and the scribes.54And Peter followed him afar off, even into the palace of the high priest: and he sat with the servants, and warmed himself at the fire.

Luke 22:54

54Then took they him, and led him, and brought him into the high priest’s house. And Peter followed afar off.

Looks like not all of the disciples fled or forsook Jesus as Matthew and Mark suggest in the section above! Matthew says Peter followed to see the end which is kind of suggesting that Peter was looking forward to this end. Luke seems to suggest that because of the “buying a sword tale” that the true Jesus Christ was the wolf that scatters the sheep only to cover up who the real wolf is!

This post tells who are the wolves in sheep’s clothing:

Chief Priests and the Legion – Revised

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Part Six:  According to the Gospel of John


John 18:1-12

1When Jesus had spoken these words, he went forth with his disciples over the brook Cedron, where was a garden, into the which he entered, and his disciples.2And Judas also, which betrayed him, knew the place: for Jesus ofttimes resorted thither with his disciples.3Judas then, having received a band of men and officers from the chief priests and Pharisees, cometh thither with lanterns and torches and weapons.4Jesus therefore, knowing all things that should come upon him, went forth, and said unto them, Whom seek ye?5They answered him, Jesus of Nazareth. Jesus saith unto them, I am he. And Judas also, which betrayed him, stood with them.6As soon then as he had said unto them, I am he, they went backward, and fell to the ground.7Then asked he them again, Whom seek ye? And they said, Jesus of Nazareth.8Jesus answered, I have told you that I am he: if therefore ye seek me, let these go their way:9That the saying might be fulfilled, which he spake, Of them which thou gavest me have I lost none.10Then Simon Peter having a sword drew it, and smote the high priest’s servant, and cut off his right ear. The servant’s name was Malchus.11Then said Jesus unto Peter, Put up thy sword into the sheath:

the cup

which my Father hath given me,

shall I not drink it?

12Then the band and the captain and officers of the Jews took Jesus, and bound him,

Peter was the ONE OF THEM that smote the ear!

The man that had his ear whacked was Malchus!

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Jesus went forth to the garden to meet the band of men and officers from the chief priests and Pharisees, and also Judas.

He did not try to escape! He deliberately met the multitude!

He asked that his disciples be allowed to go their way!

They did not forsake him!

He did what He had purposed to do!

The Crucifixion

John 19:29-30

29Now there was set a vessel full of vinegar:

and they filled a spunge with vinegar, and put it upon hyssop, and put it to his mouth.

30When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished:

and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.

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The Covenant in Blood

I wonder why the three Synoptic Gospel have a a covenant for the many at the Last Supper,

but not in the Gospel of John.

Seems to me that the Gospel of John would include this covenant made with the many?

Matthew 26:26-28

26And as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and blessed it, and brake it, and gave it to the disciples, and said, Take, eat; this is my body.27And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, Drink ye all of it;28For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

Mark 14:22-25

22And as they did eat, Jesus took bread, and blessed, and brake it, and gave to them, and said, Take, eat: this is my body.23And he took the cup, and when he had given thanks, he gave it to them: and they all drank of it.24And he said unto them, This is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many.25Verily I say unto you, I will drink no more of the fruit of the vine, until that day that I drink it new in the kingdom of God.

Luke 22:20

20Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you.

It is written as “covenant” instead of “testament” in the NIV and many other versions of the bible.

Definition of TESTAMENT

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a archaic : a covenant between God and the human raceb capitalized : either of two main divisions of the Bible
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a : a tangible proof or tributeb : an expression of conviction : creed
3
a : an act by which a person determines the disposition of his or her property after deathb : will
— tes·ta·men·ta·ry adjective
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Daniel 9:27
And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

So what is Paul saying below?

I have a hard time with Paul and understanding where he is coming from because he seems most of the time to digress/swerve often!

Galatians 3:15-17
15Brethren, I speak after the manner of men;

Though it be but a man’s covenant,

yet if it be confirmed,

no man disannulleth, or addeth thereto.

16Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

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And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.

Daniel 9:27 (New International Version)

27 He will confirm a covenant with many for one ‘seven.’ [a] In the middle of the ‘seven’ [b] he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on a wing of the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him.

Confirmation of the Covenant: Who is “He”?

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The Temptation of Jesus Christ – revised


Right after Jesus is baptized by John the Baptist, the gospels of Matthew, Mark and Luke tell the story of Jesus being led into the wilderness for 40 days fasting and being tempted by Satan,

yet the gospel of John says nothing about 40 days ritual in the wilderness hanging out with the devil!

Lets compare the gospels that do include this story

Matthew 4:1-2

1Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil.2And when he had fasted forty days and forty nights, he was afterward an hungred.

Mark1:12

12And immediately the spirit driveth him into the wilderness.13And he was there in the wilderness forty days, tempted of Satan; and was with the wild beasts; and the angels ministered unto him.

Luke 4:1

1And Jesus being full of the Holy Ghost returned from Jordan, and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness,2Being forty days tempted of the devil. And in those days he did eat nothing: and when they were ended, he afterward hungered.

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Why would the Spirit drive Jesus Christ into the wilderness to be tempted for 40 days?

What Spirit are we talking about?

Is fasting and temptation by the devil for 40 days a prerequisite for proof that Jesus Christ is righteous enough to be the Son of God?

I don’t believe this is true.

I think this fast and the temptations was included in the Synoptic Gospels of Matthew, Mark and Luke to deceive!

Luke DOES NOT include that the angels ministered unto him! Why not?

Wasn’t it written (in the gospel of Matthew and Mark)?

Did he not hear, nor see, and neither perceive what was written in the gospel of Matthew and Mark?

Mark does not include the three temptations that are in the gospels of Matthew and Luke!

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Matthew 4:3

3And when the tempter came to him, he said, If thou be the Son of God, command that these stones be made bread.4But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

Luke says this stone, Matthew says these stones!

Luke 4:3-4

3And the devil said unto him, If thou be the Son of God, command this stone that it be made bread.4And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God

Where in the bible is:

“IT is Written” that man shall not live by bread alone but in the gospel of Matthew for Luke and in the gospel of Luke for Matthew!

They only support each other……wow thats really mysterious

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Matthew 4:5-7

5Then the devil taketh him up into the holy city, and setteth him on a pinnacle of the temple,6And saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone.7Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God

This is referring to Psalm 91 but taken totally out of context and to whom it was written about!

Either Matthew is mixed up, or Luke is mixed up as to the order of temptations!

Were they there in the wilderness with Jesus Christ in his temptations?

No!

How would they know whether Jesus was tempted by the devil?

They didn’t even know Jesus Christ!

Luke 4:5-8

5And the devil, taking him up into an high mountain, shewed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time.6And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it.7If thou therefore wilt worship me, all shall be thine.8And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

Obviously, Luke is referring to what the gospel of Matthew and the gospel of Mark say that Jesus Christ said to Peter, but this is not in the gospel of John!

Matthew 16:23
But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.

Mark 8:33
But when he had turned about and looked on his disciples, he rebuked Peter, saying, Get thee behind me, Satan: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but the things that be of men.

Sounds like Obama’s leadership.

Leading from behind.

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Matthew 4:8-10

8Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;9And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me.10Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

Either Matthew is mixed up, or Luke is mixed up as to the order of temptations!

Who is telling the truth? Matthew or Luke?

Were they in the wilderness with Jesus Christ?

We know that Luke did not know Jesus Christ but was a companion to Saul/Paul of Tarsus!

Was Matthew with Jesus Christ in the wilderness to know what the devil tempted, and in what order?

Luke 4:9-12

9And he brought him to Jerusalem, and set him on a pinnacle of the temple, and said unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down from hence:10For it is written, He shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee:11And in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone.12And Jesus answering said unto him, It is said, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.

Were they there in the wilderness with Jesus Christ?

Did Luke know Jesus Christ? Obviously not. He never met him!

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Matthew 4:11

11Then the devil leaveth him, and, behold, angels came and ministered unto him.

Luke 4:13

13And when the devil had ended all the temptation, he departed from him for a season.

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At the Same Time that Jesus Christ

(in the gospels Matthew, Mark and Luke)

is in the wilderness being tempted by the devil

Jesus Christ

(in the gospel of John)

attends a wedding in Cana

with his disciples and his mother.

As all of my articles have said: Matthew, Mark and Luke were not of the chosen apostles and were not witnesses and were not there.

Luke 22:28-29

28Ye are they which have continued with me in my temptations.29And I appoint unto you a kingdom, as my Father hath appointed unto me;

I think Luke is talking about the kingdom of this world and a false Jesus Christ!

And to add insult to injury talking to Paul:

Acts 21:38
Art not thou that Egyptian, which before these days madest an uproar, and leddest out into the wilderness four thousand men that were murderers?

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I Am That I Am (The Sign) -Revised *


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A Desert Place (a Different View)



Matthew 24:25-27

25Behold, I have told you before.26Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth:behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.27For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

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GOSPEL OF HILLARY CLINTON – Feeding of the 5000

“FOR HILLARY CLINTON, FAITH MEANS CARING FOR OTHERS”

What difference does it make?

She also gives her version of the feeding of 5000 in the article linked above:

“The disciples come to Jesus and suggest they send away the people to find food to fend for themselves. But Jesus said, `No. You feed them,'” Clinton said. “He was teaching a lesson about the responsibility we all share.”

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Are ya and the rest of government willing to stop traveling give up vacations, travel, and campaigning to feed the poor? Then I guess your faith is meaningless and you really don’t care nor does anyone who campaigns on feeding the poor, minimum wage, etc. Until you atop overtaxing and spending, until you repeal in total Obama Care and call a spade a spade which Obama Care is and stop entertaining yourselves, taking vacations and stop traveling on everyone else’s dime and fix the leaks in government waste going to Rome and other places illegally you are full of POOP.

Gospel of Matthew-Feeding of the 5000

John had been beheaded and the disciples took the body up. They told Jesus about what they had done and when he heard of it, he went to a desert place:

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Matthew 14:13-15

13When Jesus heard of it, he departed thence by ship into a desert place apart: and when the people had heard thereof, they followed him on foot out of the cities.14And Jesus went forth, and saw a great multitude, and was moved with compassion toward them, and he healed their sick.15And when it was evening, his disciples came to him, saying, This is a desert place, and the time is now past; send the multitude away, that they may go into the villages, and buy themselves victuals.

Hmmmmmmmmm. The Synoptic Jesus was in a desert place yet he warms his disciples about seeking him in a desert?

Strange twist!

How does one depart by ship into a desert place.

Jesus did not know it was a desert place…which his disciples seem to have to tell him. The disciples are telling Jesus to send the multitude away, as if they were in charge of Jesus Christ! They are telling Jesus how to handle the people for the sake of the their hunger, as if Jesus did not realize?

Does that make any sense?

Matthew 14:16-18

16But Jesus said unto them, They need not depart; give ye them to eat.17And they say unto him, We have here but five loaves, and two fishes.18He said, Bring them hither to me.19And he commanded the multitude to sit down on thegrass,

The disciples must have had a lot of food with them for Jesus to tell them to give ye them to eat.

Now, He decides to take charge and tells the disciples to give the multitude of 5000 men not including women and children food to eat and they tell Jesus the “bottom line”which is that they only have five loaves and two fishes. Jesus commands the multitude to sit on the grass in the desert place.

Certainly Jesus knew that his disciple could not give the multitude of 5000 men and more including children food to eat.

So why did Jesus say that to his disciples?

Seems so deceptive!

Jesus commands the multitude to sit on the grass in the desert place.

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Gospel of Mark-Feeding of the 5000

John had been beheaded and the apostles laid John in a tomb and they told Jesus. Then Jesus said to his apostles to come alone to rest and eat and they departed by ship to a desert place. The people saw them departing and followed him and Jesus was moved with compassion and began to teach the people many things:

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Mark 6:35-36

35And when the day was now far spent, his disciples came unto him, and said, This is a desert place, and now the time is far passed: 36Send them away, that they may go into the country round about, and into the villages, and buy themselves bread: for they have nothing to eat.

The disciples tell Jesus that they are in a desert place and tells Jesus to send the people away to the surrounding villages and buy bread.

They are telling Jesus what to do as if he was not in his right mind.

Again, they are ordering Jesus to send the people away and reminding him that the people have nothing to eat!

Isn’t that a bit odd?


Mark 6:37-40

37He answered and said unto them, Give ye them to eat. And they say unto him, Shall we go and buy two hundred pennyworth of bread, and give them to eat?38He saith unto them, How many loaves have ye? go and see. And when they knew, they say, Five, and two fishes.39And he commanded them to make all sit down by companies upon the green grass. 40And they sat down in ranks, by hundreds, and by fifties

Again, Jesus says to the apostles to give the people food (5000 men not including women and children), and they ask Jesus if they should buy “two hundred pennyworth of bread” to feed the people?

Why do they say that specific amount?

Do they think that two hundred pennyworth of bread will feed the 5000 men not including the women and the children?

Then Jesus says to find out how many loaves they have. They find out they have five loaves and two fishes.

This sounds so contrived 

Then Jesus commands the people to sit “by companies,” on the green grass.

So the people sit down in “ranks, by hundreds and by fifties“.

This is very, very military jargon!

A soldier belonged to a Legion which had about 5,000 or 6,000 men. Each legion was divided into companies of 80 men called Centuries.

Here is a link of a site about ranks:

Roman Army Ranks!

Or companies could be referring to Big business:

Fortune 500 and INC 5000

Could be referring to money as in banking.

Honestly I don’t think Jesus had them sit in groups of 500 or by what company they worked for.

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$5000 bill featuring a portrait of James Madison

I think Mithraism was prevalent back in Roman days of occupation of Jerusalem and Israel. So some of the gospels may have been tainted a bit here and a bit there by those beliefs which is understandable. Confusion. Kind of like James Foley becoming a follower of Islam while imprisoned which isn’t that far a stretch from  being Roman Catholic.

Prayer beads, Burkas and Habits, Graven images like the many Shrouds of Turin (TURKEY) etc

Second Commandment: Thou Shalt Not Make Graven Images

There are some prophecies in the bible of being surrounded by armies….I think that includes priests and nuns as well because they are an army of sorts. They like to make up their own rules and measures.

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Gospel of Luke-Feeding the 5000

Jesus sends his disciples out to the towns to preach the gospel. They went out preaching and healing. John is already dead and Herod hears about the disciples and Jesus and Herod says he beheaded John and thought that Jesus was either John or Elias or some prophet that has arisen from the dead and so Herod desires to see him. The disciples tell Jesus about all that they had done.

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Sounds like there is a problem with Luke’s background information in comparison to Matthew and Mark’s gospels.  Both their gospels say that Herod had just beheaded John and that they had taken John’s body up and put in a tomb and came to tell Jesus about what they had done, yet Luke seems to say time has passed and that Herod has had time enough to hear about the preaching and the healings of Jesus and his apostles/disciples. and thinks that John has arisen from the grave…

So Luke disagrees with the first two gospels in that the feeding of the 5000 is not immediately after the apostles take the body of the beheaded John and put him in a tomb.

Luke 9:10-12

10And the apostles, when they were returned, told him all that they had done. And he took them, and went aside privately into a desert place belonging to the city called Bethsaida.11And the people, when they knew it, followed him: and he received them, and spake unto them of the kingdom of God, and healed them that had need of healing.12And when the day began to wear away, then came the twelve, and said unto him, Send the multitude away, that they may go into the towns and country round about, and lodge, and get victuals: for we are here in a desert place.

Luke gets specific and names the place that Jesus takes the apostles which is a “desert place belonging to the city called Bethsaida.”

Again there must be a lot of grass in this desert place for 5000 men (not including women and children) to be able to sit down as commanded by this Jesus.

Bethsaida is not in the desert!

Matthew, Mark and Luke say they are in a desert place and Luke adds that it belongs to the city of Bethsaida.

Bethsaida must be deserted or at least the desert place of Bethsaida is deserted.

Again the apostles tell Jesus to send the multitude away so that they can get food AND LODGING and they remind Jesus that they are in a desert place, because Jesus was not aware that they needed food AND LODGING or that they were in a desert place (deserted place.)

Jesus seems to be getting progressively more inattentive to the needs of the multitude as we get to the Gospel of Luke.

Now the multitude also needs LODGING.

SO again the apostles are telling Jesus “how things are!”

Luke 9:13-15

13But he said unto them, Give ye them to eat. And they said, We have no more but five loaves and two fishes; except we should go and buy meat for all this people.14For they were about five thousand men. And he said to his disciples, Make them sit down by fifties in a company.15And they did so, and made them all sit down.

So again, Jesus tells the apostles to feed the multitude of 5000.

Now that is silly!

But they say they only have five loaves and two fishes unless they go buy more meat for the multitude.

Jesus tells them to make the people sit in “fifties in a company.”

Why not say tell them to sit down in families? Or get in line? Or sit down in rows and columns of twenties?

Again this is military jargon!

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Gospel of JohnFeeding the 5000

Earlier in the chapter 5 of the Gospel of John Jesus was talking to the Jews at the temple in Jerusalem because of a feast of the Jews. He had just healed a man on the Sabbath and the Jews were persecuting him because he healed a man on the Sabbath and at that time alludes to John the Baptist having been a burning and a shining light to them, but in John chapter 3 John the Baptist had not yet been imprisoned. The Gospel of John does not say whether he is dead, alive or in prison! He goes to Sea of Galilee and a multitude followed him because of his miracles on the diseased. Jesus goes to a mountain and sits with his disciples and a company of people approach Him.

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Nothing is written in the Gospel of John about the decapitation or the burial of John the Baptist nor what the disciples had done for John the Baptist in his death neither for that matter anything about Herod and his response to Jesus (as in the gospel of Luke)!

John 6:1-13

1After these things Jesus went over the sea of Galilee, which is the sea of Tiberias.2And a great multitude followed him, because they saw his miracles which he did on them that were diseased.3And Jesus went up into a mountain, and there he sat with his disciples.4And the passover, a feast of the Jews, was nigh. 5When Jesus then lifted up his eyes, and saw a great company come unto him, he saith unto Philip, Whence shall we buy bread, that these may eat?6And this he said to prove him: for he himself knew what he would do.

Now the gospel of John gets very specific:

The Gospel of John says nothing about a desert place or Bethsaida, but that they are in a mountain!

Which is kind of odd to see 5000 men not including women and children in a desert place or desert.

Doesn’t sound very deserted to me! And what are 5000 men and their families doing in the desert or a desert place?

Not one disciple tells Jesus where He is! Not one disciple tells Jesus to send the people away either! He seems to be quite aware and in control of the situation! In fact, He even realizes the needs of the people that followed him.The Gospel of John also gets specific to the time of this event and says that the passover was nigh (soon).

Jesus asks Philip where they should buy bread so they can provide bread after he sees a great company i.e. a great multitude approaching him.

Why does Jesus ask Philip?

Philip was from Bethsaida as stated in the gospel of John twice, which is odd to me!

Why not ask Andrew or Peter where to buy bread, who were also of the city of Bethsaida?

John 1:44

Now Philip was of Bethsaida, the city of Andrew and Peter.

John 12:21
The same came therefore to
Philip, which was of Bethsaida of Galilee, and desired him, saying, Sir, we would see Jesus.

Bethsaida is a city of Galilee!

Jesus knows that the people need food even without the direction of his apostles! So in the gospel of John, Jesus seems to have his wit and wherewith all and

He seems to be in charge!

John 6:7-10

7Philip answered him, Two hundred pennyworth of bread is not sufficient for them, that every one of them may take a little. 8One of his disciples, Andrew, Simon Peter’s brother, saith unto him, 9There is a lad here, which hath five barley loaves, and two small fishes: but what are they among so many?10And Jesus said, Make the men sit down. Now there was much grass in the place. So the men sat down, in number about five thousand.

Jesus does not command them to separate into companies, but tells the disciples to make the the men sit down. Jesus knew they did not have enough food or money to feed 5000 men! Jesus does not tell the disciples to feed the 5000 men, unlike the other three synoptic gospels contend knowing that they could not feed the 5000. Jesus asks Philip whence they can buy bread! Philip says that 200-penny
worth isn’t enough to feed the men, but Andrew says that a boy has a basket of 5 barley loaves of bread and 2 fish, but it isn’t enough.

The gospels of Matthew, Mark and Luke (the synoptic gospels)

don’t even mention

the boy with the basket of 5 barley loaves of bread and 2 fish.

The other gospels (Matthew, Mark and Luke) are making it sound ridiculous by omitting the boy with the bread and fish in this event.

Philip seems to know that 200 pennyworth isn’t enough to feed the 5000 men!

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Now in the gospel of Mark the disciples ask Jesus : Shall we go and buy two hundred pennyworth of bread, and give them to eat?

I wonder why that amount of bread is proposed by them

since in the gospel of John

Philip says that two hundred pennyworth is not enough to feed the 5000 men!

How would Philip know?

Why would the gospel of Matthew have the disciples ask Jesus about this “same amount” that they should buy knowing it isn’t enough by what Philip replies in the gospel of John?

Is it Coincidence that they pull the same exact amount out of thin air to turn the tables (so to speak) unless Philip is the author of Matthew’s gospel and/or they, the synoptic authors, have John’s gospel in hand to weave a different story i.e. to mock and to go against!

Weird!

It is apparent that Philip had the money or would be able to estimate the amount needed for a multitude of 5000 men and that is why Jesus asked Philip (instead of Peter or Andrew) in the gospel of John:

John 6:5-6

5When Jesus then lifted up his eyes, and saw a great company come unto him, he saith unto Philip, Whence shall we buy bread, that these may eat?6And this he said to prove him: for he himself knew what he would do.

If they were in Bethsaida, wouldn’t Philip, Peter or Andrew have said lets go check out what is in the town and see if they have food or we can find out?

Philip was from Bethsaida, but he doesn’t say anything about Bethsaida only that 200-pennyworth won’t feed the multitude, but just a little.

When I cook for a big group it takes a lot of planning to know how much is needed per person. There are people that do cook for large groups that can estimate because of experience in doing so, like caterers!

In those days Barley loaves was also used as currency!

Why would the gospel of Matthew later say not to go into the desert when they were supposedly in a “desert place” when Jesus fed the 5000 men according to Matthew, Mark and Luke.

The Gospel of John does not say they were in a desert place, but that they were in a mountain.

The gospel of Matthe says that the disciples ask, shall we go buy 200 pennyworth of bread when it would not even satisfy the multitude?

Jesus does not command them to separate into companies, but gets the disciples to make the the people sit down. Jesus knew the disciples did not have enough food or money to feed 5000 men and the women and children as did the other three synoptic gospels contend. But Andrew brings up that a boy has some bread and fish, which was probably offered by an enthusiastic boy trying to help.

And to top it off Jesus of the gospel of Matthew says in his prophetic monologue the following:

Matthew 24:25-26

25Behold, I have told you before.

26Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth:

behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.

The synoptic gospels try to infer that Bethsaida was deserted or in a desert place, when Jesus was with the disciples in a mountain

So is Matthew saying not to believe the feeding of the 5000 men?

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Conclusion

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Matthew 14:19-21

19……..and took the five loaves, and the two fishes, and looking up to heaven, he blessed, and brake, and gave the loaves to his disciples, and the disciples to the multitude.

20And they did all eat, and were filled: and they took up of the fragments that remained twelve baskets full.

21And they that had eaten were about five thousand men, beside women and children.

Mark 6:41-46

41And when he had taken the five loaves and the two fishes, he looked up to heaven, and blessed, and brake the loaves, and gave them to his disciples to set before them; and the two fishes divided he among them all.

42And they did all eat, and were filled.

43And they took up twelve baskets full of the fragments, and of the fishes.

44And they that did eat of the loaves were about five thousand men.

45And straightway he constrained his disciples to get into the ship, and to go to the other side before unto Bethsaida, while he sent away the people.

46And when he had sent them away, he departed into a mountain to pray.

Luke 9:16-17

16Then he took the five loaves and the two fishes, and looking up to heaven, he blessed them, and brake, and gave to the disciples to set before the multitude.

17And they did eat, and were all filled: and there was taken up of fragments that remained to them twelve baskets.

The three synoptic gospels say that Jesus blessed the loaves and brake the loaves, etc., but the gospel of John says he gave thanks and distributed!

That is a huge antithesis!

John 6:11-15

11And Jesus took the loaves; and when he had given thanks, he distributed to the disciples, and the disciples to them that were set down; and likewise of the fishes as much as they would.

12When they were filled, he said unto his disciples, Gather up the fragments that remain, that nothing be lost.

13Therefore they gathered them together, and filled twelve baskets with the fragments of the five barley loaves, which remained over and above unto them that had eaten.

14Then those men, when they had seen the miracle that Jesus did, said, This is of a truth that prophet that should come into the world.

15When Jesus therefore perceived that they would come and take him by force, to make him a king, he departed again into a mountain himself alone.

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The Eucharist was around before Jesus and was practiced in Egypt. It had nothing to do with Jesus, but was a pagan practice and worshipping another god.

The monstrance is what holds the Eucharist and it is IDOLATRY!

Monstrance

Why do you suppose they are usually the shape of the sun?

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How is it That Ye Do Not Understand?

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