The Court of the Gentiles and Human Rights
As far as I know, Jesus never said anything about gaity, effeminism, lesbians, or homosexuals. In my opinion they should have the same human rights as others have. I do not think this is a slippery slope. It is common sense.
They should have the right to marry.
Now the bible says we should not eat shellfish…because of the health risks, but it is not one of the Ten Commandments.
Do we say that people who eat shellfish cannot marry?
We have progressed in this rights struggle for people of different races, creeds and the female gender; we allow them to marry, why stop now?
How does marriage hurt a feminine man or a manly woman?
How does marriage hurt a homosexual or a lesbian?
How would that human right hurt the people in our country?
I think it would make them and us safer.
Did God say he was against homosexuals getting married? Not that I recall but He does not approve of the sexual act because it is unnatural and obviously a health risk.
Because God loves humans he tells them about the risks ahead of time to help protect them no matter who they are, homosexual or heterosexual. African or Roman. Jewish or Palestinian. American or Russian. ETC.
Obviously, each and all of us are imperfect by His design.
I haven’t seen, neither met, nor known anyone that was perfect.
He created humans with flaws or we would be perfect and since angels fell they must have been imperfect too!
That face sure looks familiar to me!
Cardinal John Patrick Foley
Jackie o?
Compare the picture above with this picture of Jackie
you have to admit they do look similar.
“During his tenure, the Archbishop once sparked outrage in the homosexual community by describing the AIDS pandemic as a “natural sanction for certain types of activities.”[12
Makes you wonder who is responsible?
He also defended the Church’s exclusively male priesthood, once saying, “Jesus clearly did not ordain women to the priesthood, nor did he authorize the Church to do so.”
How would he know?
When angels think they are God.
Is Cardinal John Patrick Foley a relative to Jackie O?
“I Come as a Pilgrim”
“The Pope held out a special hand of reconciliation in advance to Catholic homosexuals, who had been outraged at comments made by Archbishop John Foley, the American who heads Vatican communications. Foley had described the scourge of AIDS as a “natural sanction for certain types of activities.” Aboard Spoleto, John Paul said homosexuals “are in the heart of the church,” along with “all people who suffer.” In his first-ever remarks on AIDS, the Pope said, “The church is doing all that is possible to heal and especially to prevent the moral background” of the disease.”
Read more: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,147603,00.html#ixzz1v2Q22l8k
^These guys are nuts IMO! They love suffering….keeps them afloat.
Not only homosexuals received the “natural sanction” spoken of by Cardinal John Patrick Foley but so did other people like hemopheliacs. I dated a man who died of aids along with his brother, both were hemopheliacs. Both were happily married and productive men. Before he died he did reveal to me that his investigation of the aids contamination in the blood supply had to do with
the Red Cross, and in particular Elizabeth Dole.
Weird picture of the Doles and the Connallys
I guess “natural sanction for certain types of activities.”
is not very exact kind of like the Mustard Seed Parable.
Please read about natural sanctions in this link:
THE PARABLE OF FAITH – PART ONE
The Parable of Faith – Part two
Pope Benedict XVI and the Mustard Tree
Parable of the Mustard Seed Part 4
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D.C. gay rights groups evacuated after bomb threats
What is a marriage called when a gay person marries a straight person?
Half gay marriage? Half straight marriage?
How about if the other person isn’t aware of the other persons sexuality? What if the person isn’t even aware of their own sexuality?
Then what? Does that mean they are forever married until death even though it is a bad arrangement?
I don’t think it is fair to draw a line on this human right. I wonder how many unnecessary tragedies have occurred because of this type of hypocrisy especially when it comes to arranged marriages over the history of this world. How many murders have occurred to coverup ones sexuality because of what “the church” deemed legitimate?
Anne Boleyn and others come to my mind!
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I would rather see a homosexual have one partner and learn about marriage than live wildly and not learn about marriage. Marriage tends to stabilize a person which is good for many reasons. Depriving a person of a stabile loving environment is cruel and certainly doesn’t help.
Marriage is a private relationship between adults so they should be able to marry as long as the other person wants the same, just as I believe a person has the right to a divorce if things don’t work out, without ramifications.
I should have the right to raise my child my way without hindrance from others such as my government and my government school system. I should be able to homeschool if I so choose with out interference from my government. It is not my governments business how I raise my child.
Sodom and Gommorah
I believe the reason the angels blinded the crowd wasn’t because of their sexual orientation. It was because they were demanding attention from the angels and forcing themselves upon the angels, Lot, and his family. They had no right to do that and Lot should not have offered his daughter to them. They were forcing themselves upon Lot, his family, and the angels. That is why I believe they were blinded.
God did not destroy Rome or Greece and I think they also had homosexuals living in their countries. But our bibles tell us that Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed.
Did Jesus destroy homosexuals when he came?
I don’t recall that he did, but he healed people with various imperfections,
but not everybody.
Why was Sodom and Gomorrah destroyed?
The bible says that it was because of the sin of the people had basically gotten so bad that God could not ignore it anymore. It wasn’t just the homosexuals.
It was everyone in those cities.
I do not know what Gomorrah means but this is what it says is the definition:
| Go·mor·rah 2 |
Sodom means:
Sodomy – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Sodomy refers to anal sex or other non-penile/vaginal copulation-like acts, especially between male persons or between a person and an animal.
So we have wickedness, depravity, anal sex and beastiality, and I don’t know what the other non-penile/vaginal copulation means ….maybe oral sex, heavy petting and other things.
So basically the two names of the two cities doesn’t exclude a particular gender. The definition of the names of those two cities does however seem to point to sexual sin and wickedness.
Men, women, children, and animals were destroyed.
Obviously sin was rampant amongst all the people and tolerated by Lot and his family.
Abraham made a deal with the destroying angels hoping to spare the two cities, if the destroying angels could find a certain amount of righteous people would God spare the cities from destruction. I forget the amount that they agreed upon but it was not just a few but it seems they could not even find that amount because the bible says those cities were not spared.
From that I glean that it is a good idea
to allow righteous people to be righteous,
because it is those people and their righteousness that keep the world safe.
In the Gospel of John after Jesus had arisen he said
John 14:1
Let not your heart be troubled:
ye believe in God,
believe also in me.
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We should help people to believe in humane, thoughtfully kindly ways within the laws of the countries and not persecute believers or non believers, or disembowel them and kill them, lie to them, or torture them, or trick them because they are imperfect.
Christians are imperfect.
Nobody said that a believer was perfect.
Christians should not expect perfection in non believers either.
Non believers should not expect perfection in believers.
Angels are imperfect too…..
Putting someone on the rack doesn’t improve them. I don’t expect the Roman Catholic establishment to be perfect either. They have made huge mistakes but should also have to live by the laws of the land and own up to their mistakes. They have accomplished some good things too and we cannot discount their service in some capacities. Most Roman Catholics are wonderful people and imperfect.
The Roman Catholic Church established a Court of the Gentiles
about the same time as they felt they were being persecuted
because of their abuse of children
and not because of their beliefs.
That is the lie.
It is not a coincidence.
Now the RCC and the Pope and their “protection”
won’t allow anyone to see their secret files,
because they perceive themselves to be HOLY and above the laws of the land
but want us to suffer their subtly maniacal inquisitions
with the powers that they have established for over 2000 years
through deception.
That is the EPITOME of TREACHERY!
I believe if they own up to their mistakes they as a church could be healed and survive because they are human,
Obviously that power has corrupted them.
If they go down we all go down. That’s how these cowards do business.
Vatican Investigating Girl Scouts
for Links to Safe-Sex Education Groups
Ignorance is their ace in the hole, you might say. That is why there was such a thing as the Dark Ages when the lay people were not allowed to read the bible, in essence, they want to discern for us and deceive us. It is their power. Everything they do is toward that purpose. Education on the other hand gives power back to the individual and out of their hands.
Abusers of mankind!
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Case in Point:
Vatican Investigating Girl Scouts
for Links to Safe-Sex Education Groups
Ignorance is their ace in the hole, you might say. That is why there was such a thing as the Dark Ages when the lay people were not allowed to read the bible, in essence, they want to discern for us and deceive us. It is their power. Everything they do is toward that purpose. Education on the other hand gives power back to the individual and out of their hands.
Wikipedia head joins Vatican meeting, talks about abortion controversy
Wikipedia and peace
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There were 2 other cities in the plain besides Sodom and Gomorrah which were destroyed. It is quite possible since no one knows where or for sure where these 4 places are located that Sodom and Gomorrah is a prophecy. Don’t discount that possibility.
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What is sin?
Obviously wickedness, depravity, bad behavior, and bad morals. The bible says that homosexuality and beastiality are an abomination. Obviously, disobeying the Ten Commandments is considered to be sin. The rapid decline in the morals of this country by the average citizen seems to coincide with the dismissal of the rule of law.
Whose law?
God’s law.
We have so many new laws in this country, much more than we had 50 years ago. Obviously, it isn’t the addition of these new laws, but the dismissal and disregarding of God’s law in our country that is affecting our country.
Lawlessness and disobedience
Most of our kids don’t remember or were not alive when debates about the Ten Commandments were occurring in this country, but I remember it was my generation that rebelled against the monuments of God’s law. As I recall, it was the atheists that were the initiators of this mission, because they don’t believe in God. Free love and the hippie movement were also accepted by some of the population and are now standardized in our relationships in various ways. Abortion also was debated and now we have legal abortion for the rights of the mother and against the rights of the baby. The drug trade and drug usage prospered, homosexuals started to come out of the closet.
I believed in a government separation of church and state.
I went to an Episcopal church for a couple of years in my early teens.
The Church I attended was hit by lightning and burned up. It coincided with a Gay/effeminate Rector taking over the position at about the same time that the church had invested in a new organ. I noticed the new rector because he swished down the aisle and I thought he was weird, but at the time I did not know about homosexuality in any form. Clueless! When my family attended this church on many Sundays both my brother and I would get nauseated and have to leave early. It was a real symptom. Either something was wrong with me and my brother, or the church. Well, my brother and I did not get struck by lightning or burn up. So obviously something was wrong with the church. Neither did the rector. The fact is I can’t remember if I didn’t have that same symptom before the new rector. Maybe it meant that God does not approve of a homosexual leading the church. I cannot say for sure. Maybe God did not approve of the church itself. I highly doubt the organ was the problem, but it also burned in the church fire. Maybe God didn’t like the model of the organ.
We ought to regard and erect the monuments of God’s Law
to remind the humans and angels about
the Ten Commandments
that God designed
so that our children and other generations to follow
might have the chance to marry.
I have read a lot of the bible but I have not read the whole bible. I have compared the gospels for a number of reasons and I have chosen whom I believe. The Gospel of John. I am not positive in my conclusions to the 100 percentile, but He makes sense to me. I cannot say that the things told in the other 3 gospels did not occur, but does that make it true and I guess by that I mean the content and the conclusions made by the three synoptic gospel writers and all of their quotes attributed to Jesus.
The Gospel of John gives details that are not present in the other three gospels. He names names of the people in his gospel as if he knew them and was a witness. He makes sense. Jesus doesn’t come off as a fruit cake or a tyrant in this gospel. The other three gospels make Jesus sound like a lunatic and I don’t believe them for that cause. I think he was preceded and shadowed by lunatics and copycats.
Think about the coverup of the assassination of JFK. It is similar to what happened to Jesus except that JFK did not say he was the Messiah. He did have a message though and he paid dearly for it.
I do know that when I started to compare the gospels and write about it, it seemed to stir up a lot of controversy. That was not my intent. Maybe it is just coincidence, but I don’t think it is. I think it is a real threat to the establishment of religion, but that was not my intent either,
but it is scary to see how deceptive the clergy have been.
I think it should be a human right to worship whom you believe.
I do not believe I have the right to kill, maim, or force others to believe what I believe. But I do have the right to express my beliefs. It is a human right, just like African Americans have the right to work in public businesses, worship, eat, sleep, drink, marry, drink from a public water fountain, buy a house in any neighborhood, get loans, own a business, and go to a public school or public college without hindrance because of their race.
I do not go to their bedrooms because it is private.
It is none of my business what they do there.
It is between them and God
and whether they believe or not is between them and God.
1 Corinthians 6:9
Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate,
nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
Who is this referring to? Obviously not mankind
The bible says that the effeminate do not inherit the kingdom of God …..
who determines that measure of manliness that does inherit the kingdom of God?
Mitt Romney? George Bush? Billy Graham? Joel Olsteen? The BGEA? Ted Nugent?
The Secret Service? The Jesuits? Putin? Hillary Clinton? The Swiss Guard?
I suspect that the effeminate are the cowards
that aid and abet that power
that abuses mankind.
That is why Revelation says:
Revelation 18:4
And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
By remaining you empower the enemy of mankind and that is cowardly,
which is effeminate.
It is not how manly or feminine you are,
but whether you are an abuser without remorse of your fellow human
like a Nazi.
Here is a site you should listen to and hear. Has quite a few you tubes worthy of contemplating about the Roman Catholic Church and other subjects:
Stephen Fry dismantles the Roman Catholic Church
“……Do you know who would be the last person ever to be accepted as the Prince of the church? The Galilean carpenter. That Jew. They would kick him out before he tried to cross the threshhold. He would be so ill at ease in the church…..”
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“The Roman Catholic Church faces permanent disruption and banishment in at least five countries if it does not comply with ten “non-negotiable measures” by September 15, 2012, according to a global coalition of
survivors of church rape and torture.”
Catholic Church Faces Disruption and Banishment
as Irish Cardinal Set to Resign
by Kevin Annett
Are Human Rights
the same or different
than Moral Rights?
I don’t know.
God gave us the choice to believe Him or not to believe.
God has the right to judge us however he sees fit to do so as a country and individually. He created us.
His standard is written about in the bible and it is up to each of us individually to decide and make the choices that please him or displease him.
It is a high standard if you include the other books of the Old Testament as well as the other books of the New Testament.
The Ten Commandments are pretty basic though.
Our country was born by invading this continent with lots of different peoples that escaped from other countries of all different religions and races.
Our government is supposed to represent the people that are here.
That happens to include homosexuals because they are human, as far as I know.
Human rights. What does that mean?
It means if you are human you should be able to enjoy the same rights that other humans have legally.
I believe that includes marriage,
but not sodomy.
Privacy is a human right. Sex is a privacy right.
I’m not sure about that,
but it makes sense to me.
I don’t believe it was intended by God for people to be homosexual, but obviously it was a possibility. I don’t think He approves of homosexuality or any other sin. Did God intend for marriage to be between a man and a man? No, I don’t think so since He doesn’t approve of sodomy, but it was a possibility. The bible says that God will deal with sodomites. It is not my business what happens in their bedroom. It is between them and God. My sins are not their sins, and visa-versa. Unless of course done in the public eye.
What is public?
Well, if our government and religious institutions are disobeying our privacy rights that might include what we do in the privacy of our own homes via computers, the internet, tv, telephone
and anything wired electronically, etc.
Are babies not human?
Do they have the right to live?
They can’t speak till they learn to speak and they in fact are dependent on their human mothers womb until they are designed in the womb
created by God
so shouldn’t they be protected by humans and their human rights
since they are human too and so that they may enjoy the right to marry?
How about children?
They have a right not to be sexually abused by their teachers and the clergy so that they might enjoy the right to marry and not be screwed up in their future relationships and marriage. The clergy should be forthright and offer assistance and openness of their accounts and records
instead of hiding and stalling.
Do the right thing.
It is a human right,
unless you are not human.
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If homosexuality is a learned trait then I leave that to Our Father and Jesus to heal the person of this trait when He decides is the right time for that particular individual. Same goes for a Hindu or a Buddhist, etc. Our Father reaches a person however and whenever that He does. I don’t think forcing the religion of Christianity upon another person by using bully tactics like Haarp or other facilities to cause mayhem and earthquakes (which I believe is occurring now) is the right way. If God Himself intervenes that’s His business!!!!! But I know that lately our government and other governments are using these places to scare and intimidate people.
I can’t say positively that HAARP is responsible for the tsunami/earthquake in Japan last year, but it seems highly likely and should be investigated.
But if it was a judgement from God then what did it mean?
Here are some interesting coincidences that were occurring at that particular time as far as I know in Japan involving the Pope, The Neocatechumenal Way, Roman Catholic leaders and the Japanese people. I’m sure this is just the tip of the iceberg but nevertheless ought to be scrutinized. Please read:
Japan Quakes after Confirmation of the Neocatechumenal Way
Maybe the power that is used at places like HAARP have been around longer than we know.The reason I say that is because of what happened at Yodfat. Please read:
Josephus and His Footprints
Using bully tactics like keeping files on every person in the country to blackmail them, coercing them, is DIS-GRACEFUL. Our government should not be doing this to anyone and it seems that they are, from what I have witnessed and written about in my posts.
It is that kind of business that in essence is a Disgraceful Force that might incite Our Father to intervene such as occurred at Sodom and Gomorah.
Things are pretty rotten in America and the world
and have been declining for a long time.
Why?
I believe we have misinterpreted our bibles.
I also believe we have misinterpreted the signs,
partially because of the powers and those that wield them
who want us to misinterpret these signs.
I do not have any power over any one so I am not responsible for what is happening in our country and abroad, nor do I want to have that power. But I am speaking out and at this time still have a right to voice my opinion and display what I have uncovered over the internet and what I have learned as a believer in God and Jesus written about in the Gospel of John.
I came to those conclusions by reading the bible and comparing the gospels and comparing them to the Old Testament.
and disregarding what is obviously fraudulent and maniacal.
The Fruits of the Vatican
Mitt Romney’s 2006 Rally Against Gay Marriage
Pope Benedict XVI and His Power of Suggestion
Obviously, my beliefs do affect how I react to human rights, people in general, religion and government.
If these facilities are using their power to incite, coerce, create signs such as earthquakes, tsunamis, the right to earn money or inhibiting buying and selling, behavior modification via electronic devices or anything wired to force people to accept a religion or belief or behave in a bad way then I would say they are INHUMANE. I would say they who are doing this obviously don’t agree with humans having human rights and are waging terrorism against the public. If that is true then a homosexual married couple might be at risk from those that are against this human right and humans in general.
Case in point:
Cracks in the Washington Post story on Romney’s ‘pranks’ emerge
A question emerges in reading the Washington Post piece on Mitt Romney today: How can Romney’s old pal Stu White tell the Washington Post that he has “long been bothered by the Lauber incident” — and then later admit to ABC News that he was “not present for the prank” and “was not aware of it until this year when he was contacted by the Washington Post”?
Romney Friend Stu White Says Campaign Wants Him to Counter Prank Accusations
“One former classmate and old friend of Romney’s – who refused to be identified by name – said there are “a lot of guys” who went to Cranbrook who have “really negative memories” of Romney’s behavior in the dorms, behavior this classmate describes as “like Lord of the Flies.”
The classmate believes Romney is lying when he claims to not remember it.
“It makes these fellows [who have owned up to it] very remorseful. For [Romney] not to remember it? It doesn’t ring true. How could the fellow with the scissors forget it?” the former classmate said.
In a radio interview Thursday morning,
Romney offered an apology for the pranks,
but said that “homosexuality” was never on his mind”
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Which reminds me of what God said to Abraham when Abraham took his son Isaac to Mt. Moriah to sacrifice him.
After Abraham had built an altar and had bound his son and was about to kill him in the act of sacrifice,
God intervened and told Abraham not to kill his son and said
That sacrificing Abraham’s son Isaac was never on his mind.
Then Abraham found a ram with its horns caught in the bushes
which God had provided.
Then Abraham sacrificed the ram/lamb (depending on which bible version you read) instead.
I’m sorry and need to apologize
for the above statement:
I made a mistake because I went back to read about Abraham and Isaac and what I had written that God had said (that sacrificing Isaac was never on his mind) is not true. I don’t know how that happened honestly, but God blessed Abraham for his fear of God and his willingness to offer Isaac his only son. I really thought I had read the above but now I cannot find it.
Please read:
Genesis 22
9 And they came to the place which God had told him of; and Abraham built an altar there, and laid the wood in order, and bound Isaac his son, and laid him on the altar upon the wood.
10 And Abraham stretched forth his hand, and took the knife to slay his son.
11 And the angel of the Lord called unto him out of heaven, and said, Abraham, Abraham: and he said, Here am I.
12 And he said, Lay not thine hand upon the lad, neither do thou any thing unto him:
for now I know that thou fearest God,
seeing thou hast not withheld thy son,
thine only son from me.
13 And Abraham lifted up his eyes, and looked, and behold behind him a ram caught in a thicket by his horns: and Abraham went and took the ram, and offered him up for a burnt offering in the stead of his son.
14 And Abraham called the name of that place Jehovahjireh: as it is said to this day, In the mount of the Lord it shall be seen.
15 And the angel of the Lord called unto Abraham out of heaven the second time,
16 And said, By myself have I sworn, saith the Lord, for because thou hast done this thing, and hast not withheld thy son, thine only son:
17 That in blessing I will bless thee, and in multiplying I will multiply thy seed as the stars of the heaven, and as the sand which is upon the sea shore; and thy seed shall possess the gate of his enemies;
18 And in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; because thou hast obeyed my voice.
But what about Ishmael? Wasn’t he also Abraham’s son? Hmmm. I guess from this God did not consider that Ishmael was Abraham’s son.
Maybe because God knew something not revealed?
Still I know that we do make mistakes in God’s name and in the name of Jesus as I have demonstrated so personally. Sorry!
Please read:
Binding of Isaac
“While it is often imagined that Isaac was a small child, some sources claim he was an adult (noting that Jews are considered adults at age 13). The Talmudic sages teach that Isaac was thirty-seven, likely based on the next biblical story, which is of Sarah’s death at 127 (she was ninety when Isaac was born). Bishop Ussher’s chronology would place Isaac at about 20 years of age.”
Genesis 22:14 states that it occurred at “the mount of the LORD”: in 2 Chronicles 3:1; Psalm 24:3; Isaiah 2:3 & 30:29; and Zechariah 8:3, the Bible seems to identify the location of this event as the hill on which Solomon was said to later build the Temple, now known as the Temple Mount in Jerusalem.[c
Obviously, people jumped the gun
and made some horrible mistakes
in the name of God and in the name of Jesus
and do the same now!
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John 8:57-59
57 Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?
58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you,
Before Abraham was, I am.
59 Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.
For the longest time I have tried to figure out what Jesus was trying to communicate when he said in the Gospel of John:
” Verily, verily, I say unto you,
Before Abraham was, I am.”
Is this what he meant? The reason I say that is because the Temple Mount was built on this site where the event spoken about in Genesis 2:2 occurred with Abraham and his son Isaac!
I even thought maybe the exodus of the hebrews led by Moses from Egypt might have occurred before the event spoken about on the Mount where Abraham and Isaac made their sacrifice, but now it is quite possible that Jesus in the Gospel of John was talking about the event with Abraham and Isaac on that same location.
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Communication between humans is tough sometimes. I noticed through experience that men have a tough time communicating with each other where as women have an easier time communicating. Men are imperfect that way. Women on the other hand are more emotional and tend to be imperfect that way.
Even angels were imperfect.
We humans and angels were made with flaws for a purpose. It is our nature to be imperfect and until God perfects all of us we have to cope with those imperfections in ourselves, each other and the others,
because who knows if God will decide to turn the tables and when.
In any case, we should try to persuade our peers, clergy, friends and neighbors, families, and our government to do what is right.
Just because we are fighting terrorism does not mean we should do the same and become terrorists ourselves. Believe me we will win the war on terrorism if we fight the war
the right way with integrity and mercy!
How we go about doing it is just as important as accomplishing it. Murdering each other, wire tapping each other, raping and pillaging, invading each other’s bedrooms, intentional disinformation, blackmailing each other, vexing people, impersonating another person, stealing and robbing, starving people, leaving an individual helpless and unable to protect themselves by disarming them, prohibiting each other in inhumane ways is the wrong way to attain human rights and it is the wrong way to change a person’s belief, spirit, and heart.
Lawlessness vs Lawlessness = Lawlessness
Lawlessness + Lawlessness = Lawlessness
which is in essence
war.
Are we at war with God or OG?
Opinion: On gay marriage, Latinos agree with Obama
OBAMA’S GAY MARRIAGE HEAD FAKE
By Roger Stone
“Once Gay Americans are through celebrating President Barack Obama’s “personal” support of Gay marriage equality, they will learn that Obama’s “evolution” changes nothing. Obama’s new position is a bullshit cop-out.
This comes on the heels of an cynical Obama campaign pirouette where Team Obama trotted out first Secretary of State Hillary Clinton then Vice President “Crazy” Joe Biden to say they support gay marriage and imply that the President would too–after the election.
Now, incredibly, Obama says Gay marriage is a state issue. That’s what they used to say about abortion and before that, slavery. Now Obama tells us that gay couples should be able to marry but he doesn’t believe they have a right to do so. Obama would leave the question to the states–in other words -the status quo. This is like saying that public schools ought to be integrated but if the people of Mississippi disagree, well he says, “let the states decide” …
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By the way, what is the 2nd Commandment
of the Ten Commandments?
What is wrong with saying
“do unto others as you would have them do unto you?”
There are always going to be extremes on any issue. I don’t think we should make determinations of any issues on that basis,
otherwise I would suggest outlawing marriage for heterosexuals.
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Biden apologizes to Obama for marriage controversy
uh huh.
The Trickery and Treachery of Mitt Romeny
WATCH TAMRON HALL GO NUTS
“What I am asking about is how the campaign has handled this situation, how he handled the Colorado reporter, how he handled same-sex marriage where
he said he agrees with gay parents be able to adopt,
but he does not agree with same-sex marriage? “
That’s a misnomer.
Homosexuals are good enough to raise kids
but not good enough to be married!
Does Mitt Romney not like orphans, kids, and homosexuals?
Why?
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May be Mitty Romney shavout.
Mitt Romney’s 2006 Rally Against Gay Marriage
This man is sinister, sick, demented,
and speaks in dark sentences!
Romney’s lame response on bullying allegations
Adam Lambert Discusses Gay Rights Anthem “Outlaws Of Love”
What Romney can accomplish at Liberty University
Sometimes looks are deceiving and sometimes they aren’t.
He reminds me of George Ganswein
the Pope Benedict’s Secretary
the man who dresses the Pope.
Romney apologizes for high school ‘teasing’
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It is okay if you’re gay … Stop Bullying Now!
The times we are living in are treacherous and the leaders we have in our government and religious institutions are as confused as we are because of the treachery and need our help and prayers. We should try to obey the laws of the country we live in as best we can and hopefully all of us can get through the deceit and treachery eventually.
LBJ and the Secret Service Part One
The foxes have holes, (LOOPHOLES)
the birds of the air their nests, (NETWORKS)
but the Son of Man hath nowhere to lay his head.
This is partially what this whole rig-ma-role is about.
The False Synoptic Gospels vs. Jesus of the Gospel of John!
John 7:5-7
5For neither did his brethren believe in him.
6Then Jesus said unto them,
My time is not yet come: but your time is alway ready.
7The world cannot hate you; but me it hateth,
because I testify of it,
that the works thereof are evil.
I think Jack Ready is important in this assassination. I wrote about that in another post called Billy Graham and the Covenant with Many, Rev. Wilkerson, Evangelicals and the Covenant with Many, and
David Wilkerson and Billy Graham
(articles are the same)
Jack Ready is the one that thought and said the sound of the first bullet was a firecracker (Cap Field) to another SS man and Jack Ready
was impersonated by Billy Graham for the assassination of President Kennedy because he is the
Jack of Awl Trades, Master of None
who I believe orchestrated this assassination with help from a lot of people, via mind control, deception, drugs, spies, zealots, actors and traitors, parts of our government such as the CIA, the Pentagon, etc., churches including evangelicals, BGEA, Roman Catholics, the Pope, secret societies, the Press, etc
because of his and their desire to please a false Synoptic God and theirs and his desire to seize power and keep it and many more reasons, but/and
most of all to Corrupt us!
There is no testimony of Jack Ready
by the Warren Commission!
This Warren Commission is like the Bible
it is everchanging!
A SYNOPTIC Work in Progress, so to speak.
That is why there are the tramps walking with cops who are actors supposedly that were on the overpass Prouty arrest pictures that weren’t there in real life,
but virtually appear
NOW?
To assassinate the truth tellers and to substantiate their lies!
That is why they trickle out the evidence to deceive.
They are creating it !!!
Smoke and Mirrors
Where is the testimony of Jack Ready?
Why exclude some testimony of Jackie Kennedy?
Where is the testimony of the Vice President Johnson and
Lady Bird Johnson?
They were there, weren’t they?
Where is the testimony of Senator Yarborough?
Why?
Who is suppressing the truth?
I think I NOSE!
It is a ploy to CONFOUND!
And rather a cheap trick at t-hat!!!!!
In one of Nellie Connelly’s interviews she read a letter she said she wrote:
…..”I could resist no longer and turned to the President and said, “Mr President. You certainly cannot say that Dallas doesn’t love you.” He smiled in obvious pleasure at the accolade. Then I heard a loud terrifying noise. “…..
I don’t know Mrs. Connally and have never met her so have no way of knowing the intent of that comment or whether the comment was said in earnest, but what she said could have been Doublespeak. She may have said it and not meant it. If you put a comma between “that” and “Dallas” it has another meaning! Or the spirit within her may have prompted her to say that comment at that particular time and she may have meant it the right way, but the spirit within her meant it another way!
The Synoptic Spirit!
In interviews with Mrs. Nellie Connally that I have seen recently she has said some strange things. I plan to write about those particulars in a later post.
I think that it is very coincidental, because of the verses above and the President was a few minutes away from
the luncheon at The Trade Mart.
The Trade Mart was the destination of the President John F. Kennedy motorcade in 1963 where he was scheduled to give a speech to 2,600 people at a sold-out luncheon in the Grand Courtyard.
I have a feeling it was a very special speech and his “brethren” knew what he was going to say, somehow, and instead they assassinated him.
That’s my opinion!
The Synoptic, “Judge not, lest you be judged” psychosis ruled that day.
Of course, that is a cop-out! How in the world can people learn and get better with that meaningless adage. I bet, and in my heart I think he was not excluding his own mistakes in that speech. I listened to a tape recording of the President talking about the assassination of Diem of Vietnam and his remorse for the blunder in his administration and under his leadership which may have caused Diem’s death.
I think the real reason for Diem’s death may have been out of his control and the assassination of our President was partially to coverup who ultimately was responsible for that blunder.
Ephesians 6:12
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood,
but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world,
against spiritual wickedness in high places.
But the fact is that this statement alone in Ephesians is not correct.
We do wrestle against flesh and blood
and we do wrestle with the world!
We also wrest with Smoke and Mirrors!
DECEPTION
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Here is a recording of Lady Byrd Johnson, LBJ speaking to Nellie Connally right after the assassination:
LBJ and Mrs. Nellie Connally
Mrs. Johnson says to Nellie:”….there is some reassuring news, over the TV. We are up in the plane. But they –the surgeon, speaking about John sounded so reassuring.
How about it?”
I know, I’m being nitpicky but an assassination did occur minutes before!
Everything was not all right!
So what does Lady Byrd Johnson mean by
“HOW ABOUT IT?”
What is IT?
Then after a few more words LBJ gets on and says “I love you darling, and I-I know that-that everything’s going to be all right. Isn’t it?”
There we go again. What is it?
Then Nellie says “Yes, it is, it’s going to be all right.”
Odd conversation!
As if Nellie was in charge
or was she assuring him of her continued allegiance and/or protection of
it
possibly evidence of some sort,
the speech itself,
technology, plans, a coup
Identity Theft?
that President Kennedy may have intended to expose at the luncheon at The Trade Mart which might have exposed them and what they were up to?
Keep in mind that he was assassinated minutes before their telephone call!
Please read:
In The Garden of Gethsemane
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Rufus Youngblood was riding in the Vice-Presidential car. When the shots were fired, he vaulted over the front seat and threw his body over Vice President Lyndon B. Johnson. Youngblood would later recall some of this in his memoir, Twenty Years in the Secret Service. That evening, Johnson called Secret Service Chief James J. Rowley and cited Youngblood’s bravery.[18]
TESTIMONY OF JAMES J. ROWLEY
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James Joseph Rowley
(1908–1992)
was director of the United States Secret Service between 1961 and 1973, under Presidents Kennedy, Johnson, and Nixon.
An Irish-American, Rowley had in fact been working for the Secret Service since 1938 during the days of the Franklin D. Roosevelt administration after first joining the FBI in 1936. After the trauma of the John F. Kennedy assassination, Secret Service training was regularized and systematized. The Secret Service training academy in Beltsville, Maryland is named after him.
Oral History Interview
with
James J. Rowley
The interview above is conducted by someone named JOHNSON.
It appears to be a fact finding interview!
Niel M. Johnson
Rowley was a Roman Catholic. His brother Francis, was a Catholic priest
who belonged to the largest all-male religious order in the Roman Catholic Church,
the Jesuits
James Jose Rowley was born in New York City on 14th October, 1908.
James Joseph Rowley made such an impression on the Secret Service that they named their training facility after him. He must have been quite a guy! He was not present at the assassination of JFK in Dallas…. or so he says.
Last year PRESIDENT OBAMA VISITED THE JAMES J ROWLEY TRAINING CENTER
linked in the article following:
President Obama official schedule and guidance,
April 30, 2010.
Secret Service training center
Notice the word “guidance“
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JAMES J. ROWLEY TRAINING CENTER
Below are a photos of James J Rowley, one with Eisenhower that I found on the internet.
In this photo: James J. Rowley, Dwight D. Eisenhower
Photo: Robert W. Kelley./Time & Life Pictures/Getty Images
President Dwight D. Eisenhower (L)
meeting with his Secret Service Chief, James J. Rowley (R).
The Secret Service in Simpler Times
Chief UE Baughman hands credentials to new secret service agent
1952
“I’ll never forget the afternoon the Chief gave me my credentials. Chief Baughman, youngest Chief in the history of the Service. Came into the organization as clerk and rose through the ranks to the top job in about twenty years.
When I said that I was anxious to go to work he grinned as though he remembered how he felt when he first became an agent. Then he handed me my credentials as a special agent. I was excited and proud and happy.
Before I left the Chief reminded me that protection of the President was our number one job, but he also said that suppression of conterfeiting and forgery was important, too, because they are crimes against the people and they hit where it hurts, in the pocket book.”
Urbanus E. Baughman
(Kennedy Assassination)
“Baughman was immediately critical of the methods used by the Secret Service following the assassination of President Kennedy.He wanted to know why, after the first shot was fired, the Secret Service didn’t immediately pepper the window with machine gun fire to prevent any further shots from being fired. He was also curious as to why, with an entire Secret Service detail and the Dallas Police Force on hand, the only shots that were fired were from the assassin.
He claimed it was basic training for all secret service agents
that unauthorized people should be kept out of buildings.[5]“
But as I alluded in the article linked below, the Secret Service, Jackie double, or the other men covering the Jackie double and President Kennedy
may have drugged Roy Kellerman (Pres. Kennedy’s body guard),
at least that’s what the pictures/snapshots seem to illustrate
from a you-tube of the film taken at the Love Field Airport in Dallas, Texas
of the arrival of the Kennedys on November 22, 1963.
The article also identifies a few unlikely participants
who call themselves Reverends.
Please read:
Billy Graham and The Covenant With Many
Here is the other photo of Rowley on the right.
ON the left is a snapshot close-up of Rowley
from the Life Magazine photo above.
Something is wrong!!!!!!!
<–The guy on the left is not the guy on the right!->
The picture on the left which is linked
is a close-up snapshot of the men that are in that picture at the top from Life!
The picture on the right came from Harry S. Truman Library and Museum online!
Similar features, but different! different sideburns for one. The space between the nose and lips are not the same. Cheek bones are different and under the eyes of the man on the left are deeper. The shape of the nose is similar but different. It looks to me like either Life Magazine is replacing Rowley with another or he was actually replaced by another.
Sounds preposterous, I realize.
Where have I seen that smile?
These pictures are of
Rev. Monsignor Georg Ratzinger on the left and his brother Pope Benedict XVI
aka Joseph Alois Ratzinger.
Of course, we all know who he is, but these pictures help to identify
the picture above on the left of the two men one of which is
captioned by Life Magazine
to be James J. Rowley,
They -(Georg and Joseph Ratzinger-the Pope) have distinctive chins….especially Georg!
The guy standing next to Rowley has that chin and to a lesser degree so does Rowley in the big picture above with Eisenhower.
There’s that chin!
Joeseph Ratzinger is an Enemy of Humanity | Christian Hitler
I can’t understand why they are in the picture of Life Magazine as the Secret Service Chief, James J Rowley,
but that is who those two guys above and below are.
How did this happen? I don’t know.
It’s insane!
It seems James J. Rowley is the Pope who was director of the United States Secret Service between 1961 and 1973, under Presidents Kennedy, Johnson, and Nixon.
IN HIS TRANSCRIPTS OF THE ASSASSINATION ROWLEY SAYS HE WAS NOT IN DALLAS AT THE TIME OF THE ASSASSINATION….BUT I DISAGREE! HE WAS IN DALLAS IN A SPIRITUAL WAY IN THE JACKIE KENNEDY DOUBLE AND POSSIBLY VIA MIND CONTROL AND DRUGS OF SOME SORT POSSIBLY DIRECTED BY
Donald Ewen Cameron
OR SHE IS SOME SORT OF ANDROID MANIPULATED BY RATZINGER AND HIS LEGIONS.
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This is not funny!
These 2 pictures of the First Lady in Dallas as she received her red roses are snapshots I took from the youtube
The Last Two Days, November 1963: 21-22
from JOHN F. KENNEDY PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
- Jackie arrival at Love Field
Either she is packing a gun in her crotch or she is a HE!
It might be a good idea to have her pink suit examined for
traces of semen!
If she were actually a he it would explain what she did with the wedding ring at the hospital probably because she no longer had her gloves and the ring didn’t fit!
It would also explain the odd phone call from President LBJ to Jackie and would explain her odd replies.
LBJ and Jacqueline Kennedy
Less than 1/2 hour before President Kennedy is annihilated by this thing!
Check out the left brow and the left eye
are painted and out of proportion.
(11:26/19:22 of the above film)
The picture after that is the First Lady licking her lips.
(11:24/19:22 of the above film)
She sticks out her tongue and
the real Jacky Kennedy stuck out her tongue!
snakes do it to collect information, to ensure their survival,
and the males asps for mating purposes.
Here is a link about snakes:
Why do snakes stick out their tongues?
Here are some shots of Jackie Kennedy doing the same thing on another occasion to some man quickly and then she turns away,
which I caught on the series reported by Diane Sawyer that was just recently released:
024/4:49-0:25/4:49 of the second part I think.
Jacqueline Kennedy’s Audio Tapes Describe ‘Our Happiest Years’
I have started to transcribe the CBS coverage of the assassination of JFK called CBS News and JFK. It is an ongoing project because there are so many of them in the series. the first covers 18 parts and 18 you tubes.It is quicker and easier to read than to watch and transcribe but I wanted to see what was going on elsewhere at that particular time and there is plethora of information and behind the scenes activity that most people don’t notice or just plainly don’t care. The project has a lot of interesting tongue animations by the CBS reporters who seem to be under the thumb of some men probably Secret Service Agents in New York in their studio
and the tongue cues which I illustrate seem to point to Mrs. Kennedy.
This mostly occurs in the first hour or two of the series. I also caught a few glimpses of unsuspected conspirators including the Dr. William Dickinson of Highland Park Methodist Church in Dallas Texas one of the largest congregations in the world at the time acting as a leader or commander of some Secret Service Agents, Police and others in front of the Texas School Book Depository which is very close to the Trade Mart where eventually he arrives to give the word and Benediction to the crowd I guess once he is sure that President Kennedy is dead. So the man has more than just one job!
The Second Vatican Council ever in the history of the Roman Catholic Church occurred that very same year in 1963 and I would bet that both events are intertwined!!!
Jackie Kennedy: Martin Luther King Jr. “phony”
———————
Now she is winking!
(11:31/19:22)
This is less than 1/2 hour
from the time of
Pres. Kennedy’s assassination!
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Having a humorous moment with the man behind her as if on the same bent
and twisted intent!
Insanely hysterical!
THIS IS NOT FUNNY!
Yea, I think there was a conspiracy for sure. DUH!
These people or what is inhabiting them
came out of some pit.
I think they have an agenda and I suppose it was death!
Talk about sinister…..GEEEEZ
Is this Connally’s wife? Nellie?
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They look like they are up to NO GOOD!
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Looks like a
Bunch of Crazy Knut Cases
to me!
- Then this creep walks by!
His bald spot is painted in on top of his head……WHY?
And he seems to appreciate their humor!
He looks Prouty!
who promotes GAIA worship.
He also worked for the Pentagon and was supposed to be overseas at the time of the assassination!
who has a site that talks about the tramps below somehow being involved who are just mereoverpaid and overadmired actors!
The question is how are they in these pictures at this time?
(“whoooooooo knows” said the owl to the firefly)
It is a Deception of some kind!
Prouty is who is the man in the above snapshot at the airport with the Kennedys with the painted bald spot!
IT’S INSANE
This picture are from his site:
These tramps are actors:
In front is Jaws actor Robert Shaw, John Mills in back I think, and what’s his name married to what’s her name in middle from Shawshank Redemption!
Fletcher Prouty
He has a picture of
Gen. Ed. Landsdale
Landsdale is the actor that looks like Cardinal Cushing below, who also looks like Jeremy Irons.
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What in the World is Going On
With Her Collar?
These are snapshots from the you tube of the arrival of the Kennedys.
The collar starts out notched like pyramids, then looks like a flame (eternal?)
and then irons itself out.
Then she gives some handsignal on that same collar.
This is about 1/2 hour before she
assassinates Kennedy.
Is this strange?
I took these snap shots from the video you tube of the Kennedys at the airport in Dallas above called The Last Two Days!
I don’t think she is acting right!!!!!! DO YOU?
Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis
From her apartment windows in New York City she had a splendid view of a glass enclosed wing of the Metropolitan Museum of Art which displays the Temple of Dendur. This was a gift from Egypt to the U.S. in gratitude for the generosity of the Kennedy administration, who had been instrumental in saving several temples and objects of Egyptian antiquity that would otherwise have been flooded after the construction of the Aswan Dam.[9]
I think maybe it was a mistake on her part to accept this gift!
IN the show about Jacqueline Kennedy that her daughter Caroline has decided to expose at this time (after many of the participants are already dead, of course) with the reporter Diane Sawyer in the first part of the press release about the show Diane Sawyer pronounces Jacquelines name in an unusual pronunciation which stresses the second syllable of her name Quel.
I wrote an article about the Q source called
The Synoptic “Q Source”
Many bible scholars attribute the Synoptic Gospels (the gospels of Matthew, Mark and Luke) to the inspiration by this “Q source.”
Q is short for Quelle which in German means to kill and to suppress. The Old Testament of the Bibleignored by many explains this Q source. I hope you read the article above which should help you to understand this dilemma. The “curse” of the Kennedy family and the curse of the Onassis family have one common variable and that is JacQueline.
She and her daughter are not to be trusted! Her daughter Caroline could care less about the truth and is the caretaker of Jackie’s propaganda and lies
because she BENEFITS by those lies. Hence the timing of her release of information which is to QUELL and SUGAR COAT those lies.
Caroline is like Karo syrup
“(Its major uses in commercially-prepared foods are as a thickener, sweetener, and humectant (an ingredient that retains moisture and thus maintains a food’s freshness).[7])” In the United States, cane sugar quotas raise the price of sugar;[8] hence, domestically produced corn syrup and high-fructose corn syrup (HFCS) are less expensive alternatives that are often used in American-made processed and mass-produced foods, candies, soft drinks and fruit drinks to help control cost”)
3 members of her family were murdered and she just plays the press so that she can manipulate in her mothers shadow and twist her dads legacy!
JacQUELines breathy voice, her beauty, style, personality are a veil of a vile person with a twisted purpose.
When you watch this show recently released by her daughter “the caretaker”
pay careful attention to her madness!
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In any case, the destined pope and his brother were in the USA.
I wonder why!
And before that the destined pope was a Nazi and lived in Bavaria!
James Joseph Rowley
| Preceded by U.E. Baughman |
Chief, United States Secret Service September 1, 1961 – 1965 |
Succeeded byHimself (as Director) |
| Preceded by Himself (as Chief) |
Director, United States Secret Service 1965 – October 1973 |
Succeeded by H. Stuart Knight |
I BELIEVE THAT RATZINGER POSSESSES THE SPIRIT OF THE DEVIL! THAT IS HOW THE DEVIL WORKS….THROUGH HIS OWN PEOPLE TO MANIPULATE WORLD EVENTS AND TO DISPOSE OF CERTAIN PEOPLE THAT MIGHT EXPOSE HIM AND HIS PLANS AND HIS LIES!
That ought to scare you!
THE GREAT DECEPTION
IS
THE SYNOPTIC JESUS!
HE USES THE MEDIA, CIA, PRESIDENTS, CHURCHES, SECRET SERVICE, SECRET SOCIETIES, SCHOOLS, PROPAGANDA, THE INTERNET, DRUGS, HAARP, CERN, MIND CONTROL ETC., AND MONEY
TO FULFILL HIS DECEPTION AND TO MAINTAIN THE DECEPTION!
THE ROWLEY SECRET SERVICE IS MONITORING THE CITIZENS!
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GARY MACK, A SUPPOSED EXPERT OF THE JFK ASSASSINATION AND CARETAKER OF THE JFK SCHOOL BOOK DEPOSITORY MUSEUM in DALLAS MENTIONED SOMEONE CALLED CAP. FIELD IN HIS TESTIMONY, BUT WAS NOT ABLE TO FIND ANY INFORMATION ABOUT THIS PERSON,
BUT I BELIEVE HE IS PAID TO DECEIVE AND TO REGULATE EVIDENCE
(HIDE THE TRUTH).
Testimony of Gary Mack
……”Number four, Secret Service or FBI efforts to locate Cap Fieldwho may have photographed the assassination.
That name came from a document that was released in the late ’70s, and I tried to follow up on that at that time, contacting the college up in Denton, North Texas State University, and we went through records and just could not find any reference to this guy named Cap Field. There is just no way to tell where that trail went, but there is one document indicating that Cap Field may have taken one or more pictures that day.”……
Gary Mack – On Second Thoughts – Or Should That Be On Third Thoughts
in this you tube above GARY MACK AND THE WARREN COMMISSION are challenged by Jesse Ventura on a few aspects of the assassination and you can just tell that Gary Mack is quelling the evidence, because it benefits him somehow.
THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL IS MONEY AND THEIR LOVE OF MONEY EXCEEDS THEIR LOVE OF THE TRUTH!
CAP FIELD REALLY IS
“CAP THE FIELD,”
THE FIELD IS US!
CAPSTONE IS THE FALSE LIE OF SYNOPTIC GOSPELS WHICH IS REALLY IS A HEADSTONE ON A GRAVE.
The Stone Which the Builders Rejected-PART 1
THEY WANT TO KEEP THE PEOPLE DEAD, IGNORANT OF THE TRUTH, TO WORSHIP THEIR FALSE MESSIAH.
THEY WANT TO CONTROL US, ABUSE US, ABORT US, CONFUSE US, INFLUENCE US, RAPE US, RAVAGE US, BLAME US, ROB US, AND KILL US AND THEY ARE PROFICIENT AT THEIR GAME, BECAUSE IT KEEPS THEM ALIVE AND IN CONTROL. IF PEOPLE WOULD REJECT THEM AND THEIR LIES THE WORLD WOULD BE A BETTER PLACE.
AS LONG AS YOU RELY ON THEM AND IGNORE THEIR LIES
THEY WIN.
AS LONG AS WE SWALLOW THEIR LIES TO CONTINUE WE SUFFER.
IF YOU CARE
REJECT THEM AND STAND UP FOR THE TRUTH WHENEVER YOU CAN!
CAP THE FIELD COULD HAVE OTHER RAMIFICATIONS!
But let me explain the correlation with what is written about capstone in the bible. In the Gospel of John Jesus meets the brother of Andrew and says:
John 1:42
And he brought him to Jesus. And when Jesus beheld him, he said, Thou art Simon the son of Jona: thou shalt be called Cephas, which is by interpretation, A stone.
Jesus never calls Peter Cephas in the Gospel of John,
but does call him the son of Jona in the Gospel of John at the sea of Gallilee after he dies when he asks Peter three times if Peter loves him because Peter three times denied him,
but Paul refers to Peter as Cephas in his various writings.
Please read The Covenant with Many Part 1, the article below underlined,
which will help you understand Cephas and the deception.
The Kennedy Assassination and it’s aftermath is very similar to what happened to Jesus and the aftermath
ie
THE COVERUP
The enemies of the true Messiah do not want you to know the truth,
just as the killers of Kennedy do not want you to know the truth!
The Covenant with Many
The Covenant with Many Part 2
Rev. Wilkerson, Evangelicalism and the Covenant With Many Part3
or
Billy Graham and The Covenant With Many Part 3
Another anomaly is that when Jesus says something profound they threw stones at him.
The Synoptic Gospels (Gospels of Matthew, Mark and Luke) are built with those stones
that is why the are antithetical to the
Gospel of John.
Paul says in 1 Corinthians 16:24
24My love be with you all in Christ Jesus. Amen.
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John 14:30
Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh,
and hath nothing in me.
Obviously, Jesus in the Gospel of John is saying that Paul is the prince of this world
and his love in not in him!
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IN the article linked above are many photos and snapshots from films of the Kennedy’s arrival to Dallas on November 22,1963 and points out a few of the people that surround the President and Jackie Kennedy at the airport called
Love Field.
There are a few people that I recognized that acted very peculiar when Jackie was handed a puppet over the fence line and of course their presence is highly suspect
since Reverend Billy Graham wrote his alibi for that day in his book titled:
Just as I am
A Billy Graham memoir
The link above talks about John Connally, Senator George Smathers of Florida, TW and Rev. Calvin Thielman, Lee Fisher and Cliff Barrows, Ross Taylor, Jim Bishop, Pierre Salinger, Joseph Kennedy, his assistant Grady Wilson, Cardinal Cushing, Richard Nixon, Hubert Humphrey,Lyndon Baines Johnson, Ross Taylor, the Christian radio station he owned there, a doctor at Parkland Hospital in Dallas who was a friend of TW’s
and of course JFK and his son.
Rev Wilkerson never mentioned being in Dallas at Love Field either and just recently died in a collision.
Rev. Wilkerson, Billy Graham, and his buddy from Wheaton college are present in the film below and in my articles linked above in snapshots for your convenience to illustrate when the puppet was exchanged,
which was ignored by the Warren Commission even though Jean Hill saw a white puppy dog between the President and First Lady
as the first shot, firecracker, or whatever it was that occurred
at that moment
when he grabbed his neck.
The reason The Lamb Chop Puppet is important is BECAUSE it was not mentioned by Jackie Kennedy, but it was photographed in the back of the Limo after the assassination.
Here again is the you tube of the Kennedy’s arrival :
PRESIDENT KENNEDY’S ARRIVAL AT LOVE FIELD IN DALLAS ON 11/22/63
THE INFORMATION CONTAINED IN THESE ARTICLES AND THE PICTURES
should cause you to REEVALUATE your beliefs
and your trust of these Evangelical Preachers and the rest
and their message!
It should also cause you to want to investigate who they preach – who they serve.
so that you can recognize the difference and avoid it.
The Baptist Press wrote an article about Billy Graham and his memories about JFK Jr.’s death following:
With JFK Jr.’s death, Billy Graham once again called upon for reflect
…”In USA Today, Graham is quoted as saying:
“John and his wife, Carolyn, came home from their honeymoon three days early to interview me for his magazine, ‘George.’We had a wonderful time together, and I could see a great deal of love between them.
“John Kennedy Jr. was one of the most terrific young men I’ve ever met. I thought he could be anything he decided to be. He had humility, he was kind, he was gracious, and he was knowledgeable. Most important, he had a religious faith,but I think at that time he was searching for something more definite.”…
Yea, I believe JFK Jr. was investigating Billy Graham, and I believe that Billy Graham knew it! He was in search of for the assassination conspirators of JFK.
Unless Billy Graham has the collective, selective memory disfunctionprevailing in all of the participants of this whole tragedy I think written in his books and various articles
alibis and excuses to cover up.
IF “THEOLOGIANS” PARTICIPATED
IN THE ASSASSINATION OF OUR PRESIDENT
CAN THEY POSSIBLY KNOW THE TRUTH ABOUT JESUS?
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IT MATTERS
WHAT YOU BELIEVE AND WHO YOU SERVE!
THE CAPSTONE THAT KILLED JFK
AND
THE SPEECH THAT SEALED HIS FATE
is Donald Ewen Cameron
and possibly Bishop BC Butler
who was also an essential player in
Vatican II !
Below are a few links about the monk of Benedict who seems to get around!
Christopher Butler
“Basil Christopher Butler OSB (May 7, 1902–September 20, 1986), was a convert from the Church of England to the Roman Catholic Church, (duh, perhaps another shill like Billy Graham) aRoman Catholic priest, the 7th Abbot of Downside Abbey, one-time Abbot President of the English Benedictine Congregation, a bishop, an internationally respected scripture scholar, a consistent defender of the priority of the Gospel according to Matthew, and perhaps the pre-eminent English-speaking Council Father at the Second Vatican Council (Vatican II, 1962–1965).”
- Bishop BC Butler
Vatican II – Voice of The Church
The Church’s English Voice —
Bishop Christopher Butler, OSB
Donald Ewen Cameron
(24 December 1901 – 8 September 1967),[1] commonly referred to as “D. Ewen Cameron” or “Ewen Cameron,” was a twentieth-century Scottish-born psychiatrist who was involved in the United States Central Intelligence Agency‘s (CIA’s) research on mind control[2] and served as President of the Canadian, American and World Psychiatric Associations, the American Psychopathological Association and the Society of Biological Psychiatry during the 1950s.
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…”In 1945 because of his reputation as a psychiatrist and the success of his instituting of psychiatric programs throughout Canada, the United States and Europe, Cameron was invited to Nuremberg to evaluate Rudolph Hess. This was an opportunity for Cameron to represent the new system and networks of psychiatry that he had instituted in Canada. He was joined at Nuremberg by the Soviets, Krasnushkin, Sepp and Kurshakov, Lord Moran, Rees and Riddoch from England; Lewis, Schroeder and himself from North America; and Professor Delay from France. In Germany, Cameron observed and recorded the methods utilized in the war, such as tortures, authority, powerlessness, individual motivations of prisoners and guards, and that the behaviors could be monitored by social scientists that were brave enough to look at the conditions experienced by those who suffered through torture and murder during World War II and with a concentration on
Rudolph Hess’ human experiments.
Cameron was asked to assess both
Hess’ experiments and his sanity.”…
He looks like Gary Mack,
curator of 6th Floor museum in Dallas who determines what is in and what is out at that museum and assures the continuation of the lies involved in the Kennedy assassination and Warren Commission
or to put it another way he is
THE PROPAGANDA MAN
who works for
Dallas County Historical Foundation
which our contributions keep the place afloat when we visit and pay for tickets to see the “evidence”!
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Texas School Book Depository
- Q: How is the National Historic Landmark designation marked?
- The designation is marked by a bronze plaque provided by the National Park Service.The plaque is mounted on a slab of Texas pink granite set flat in the ground on thenorth side of Elm Street, east of the garden steps and near the sidewalk. The plaque says:Dealey Plaza Has Been Designated a National Historic Landmark; This Site Possesses National Significance in Commemorating the History of the United States of America; 1993 National Park Service United States Department of the Interior
- Q: What are the boundaries of the National Historic Landmark district?
- The 3.07-acre Dealey Plaza Park is only part of the district, which includes all surrounding buildings facing the park, the triple underpass and its bridge, and a part of the rail yards north of Elm Street, including the railroad-switching tower.
- Q: What does the National Historic Landmark designation mean?
- Dealey Plaza’s National Historic Landmark designation by the federal governmentrecognizes that the site has outstanding significance to the history of the United States of America. The site was designated because President John F. Kennedy was assassinated there on November 22, 1963. The designation recognizes that the course of American history changed as a result of that tragic event. Secretary of the Interior Bruce Babbitt signed the official designationof the site on October 12, 1993. Formal dedication ceremonies were held in Dealey Plaza on November 22, 1993.The Texas School Book Depository Building was recognized in 1980 by the Texas Historical Commission as a Recorded Texas Historic Landmark.
- Gary Mack, the longtime curator and archivist for The Sixth Floor Museum at Dealey Plaza (the former TexasSchool Book Depository) first claimed to discover the “Badge Man” image
Basically, Gary Mack works for the government
and we pay him
to lie to us.
TUESDAY, APRIL 26, 2011
When you buy a ticket to visit the museum
you are aiding and abetting the people that profit
from the assassination of President Kennedy!
The Sixth Floor Boycott
The Conspiracy Business is profitable
They do not want the truth.
Kind of like the churches in most of the world.
It’s a business!
Keep the deception and confusion so they will be needed and can make money. And they do it in innumerable ways:
disasters,disaster support, and donations
(as Billy Graham’s organization [BGEA] calls it Legacy’s:when you die you leave them money or assets. It is not a good idea if you want to live longer:)
Do not fall for it!
movies, relics, jewelry, tourism, tee shirts with cute bible sayings:”What would Jesus do” , peace signs, crosses and worship beads, Jesus pictures, holy water, gold dust, plaques. sermons on media etc and they take their profit and build other businesses to wield more power over their subjects.
If they cared about you they would try to tell the truth,
but instead they use the press and all the organizations and businesses they have created to keep the population under their control by manipulatomg the population morally, physically, mentally, psychologically, ecomically.
and most of all spiritually
They are BIG BROTHER
(Which by the way Billy Graham received that award when LBJ was President. We’ll touch on that later)
I.E.,
Obviously, they don’t care!
ROMAN CATHOLICISM; BILLY GRAHAM,
“WE ARE BROTHERS”
Billy Graham Plays The Pope’s Puppet
“…..In 1964,
Richard Cardinal Cushing, the renowned [Roman Catholic] archbishop of Boston, shook up the Catholic Church by praising Billy Graham.
Encouraging Catholics to hear the evangelist, Cushing remarked that he would stop worrying about the Catholic Church’s future in America if they had half a dozen men like Graham. [Roman] Catholic and evangelical efforts toward fellowship have largely followed theCushing-Graham model (ibid., emphasis mine)……”He must have proved himself!
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Allan C. Emery, 1919-2010
Memorial Page
1964 Boson Crusade
| Allan Emery was again chairman of the next Billy Graham evangelistic campaign in Boston in 1964. It was during this campaign that Graham met with Boston Cardinal Richard James Cushing and Roman Catholics were for the first time encouraged by their priests and bishops to attend Billy Graham meetings. Emery was involved in this all all other aspects of the campaign, which he discusses in the oral history interview linked to this page.In the photo below, Cardinal Cushing is to Graham’s left and Emery is to his right. |
CARDINAL CUSHING LOOKS LIKE GARY MACK?
I DON’T THINK HE LOOKS LIKE THIS:
CARDINAL CUSHING
Pretty soon there will be interactive media
where we get to be a part of history virtually
or the other!
Perhaps Cardinal Cushing was a bit more sinister than we gave him credit.
He gave the invocation at John F. Kennedy’s inauguration, and three years later mourned the nation’s first Catholic president by saying,
“my heart is broken with grief over his martyrdom
for the cause of the Free World.”
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As far as martyrdom is concerned
President Kennedy didn’t have much choice!
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3 GENERATIONS OF THE KENNEDY’S
HAVE BEEN MURDERED,
YOU OUGHT TO CARE ABOUT THAT!
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John 16:2-3
2They shall put you out of the synagogues:
yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service.
3And these things will they do unto you, because they have not known the Father, nor me.
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Part 2:
The Presidential Bubbletop Limo
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Presidential state car (United States)
Age of automobiles (1950–1969)
The 1961 state car, a Lincoln Continental convertible seen in this photo with the “bubble top” taken off, was in use when President Kennedy was assassinated on November 22, 1963 in Dealey Plaza in the city of Dallas, Texas.
Two custom built 1950 Lincoln Cosmopolitan limousines were delivered to the White House in 1950 for use by President Truman.
At the suggestion of President Eisenhower
one was fitted with a glass roof and was dubbed the “Bubble Top”.
It was later used by John F. Kennedy[16]
and once by Lyndon B. Johnson.
[I wonder why LBJ only used it once
and I wonder when?]
or was it the last time
he was still LBJ!
I wonder why the car was stripped to the frame?
…”It was retired in 1965 and is now on permanent display at the Henry Ford Museum. President Dwight D. Eisenhower, who was known for being fond of automobiles, rode in one of the first Cadillac Eldoradosduring the 1953 Inauguration Day parade.
President John F. Kennedy’s limousine, in which he was assassinated, was a 1961 Lincoln Continentalconvertible, which also came with a Plexiglas bubble top in the event of inclement weather.
The vehicle was custom built by Hess and Eisenhart of Cincinnati,
and was known as the SS-100-X. The car was retrofitted with armor plating, a permanent sedan roof, a new interior, an improved air-conditioning system, electronic communications equipment, bulletproof glass, a new paint treatment and cosmetic alterations to remove damage incurred during the assassination, among other changes. The car is on display at the Henry Ford Museum.[21]
The Johnson administration used three 1965 Lincoln Continental Executive limousines; two were for presidential use and one for Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara. A 1968 stretch Lincoln was used in Washington, D.C. andAustin, Texas, Johnson’s hometown. This vehicle is on display at the Lyndon Baines Johnson Library and Museum. The X-100 was modified again in 1967. Later, under President Richard Nixon, the large one-piece glass roof was replaced with a smaller glass area and a hinged roof panel. It remained in service until 1977 and resides in its final configuration at the Henry Ford Museum.”…
Hess & Eisenhardt co-founder dies
Firm built limos for presidents, kings
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Hess & Eisenhardt – 1942-1945 – Blue Ash, Ohio – 1945-1990 – Rossmoyne, Ohio – 1990-1992
The Secret Service became concerned about the safety of President Truman after a 1950 attack on Blair House where Truman was staying during a renovation of the White House, and approached General Motors about building a passenger vehicle that could withstand hand-weapon attacks. General Motors subsequently approached Hess & Eisenhardt, who undertook the highly specialized project. After looking at a number of armored vehicles, Hess & Eisenhardt determined a similar technique could be adapted for armoring automobiles. Thus began the company’s long history of customizing armored cars for every president from Harry Truman through Lyndon Johnson. Four of the firms presidential limos are currently on display at the Henry Ford Museum in Greenfield Village in Detroit.
In 1950, a Hess & Eisenhardt’s competitor, the Henney Motor Company of Freeport, Illinois, was awarded a special contract to build a fleet of nine custom-built, long-wheelbase Lincoln Cosmopolitans for the Truman White House.
One stipulation in the government’s order was that the coaches
must be armored by the industry leader,
Hess & Eisenhardt.
Dwight D. Eisenhower
34th President of the US from Jan. 20, 1953 to Jan. 20, 1961./Republican
Foreign policy
Eisenhower’s foreign policy was marked by
“the brave new world of CIA-led coups and assassinations.
It was Eisenhower whose CIA deposed the leaders of Iran, Guatemala, and possibly the Belgian Congo.
The Eisenhower administration also planned the Bay of Pigs invasion
to overthrow Fidel Castro in Cuba,
which John F. Kennedy was left to carry out.”[51]
However, he held out an olive branch to the Soviet Union after Joseph Stalin‘s death.[52]
President Obama Meets Billy Graham
By NANCY GIBBS AND MICHAEL DUFFY
….“Eisenhower mused about recruiting Graham as a speechwriter, to help in the fight against “Godless communism.” Photos of Ike and Graham reading the Bible together were featured in Graham’s crusade literature. John F. Kennedy sought out Graham for a round of golf in palm beach immediately after the 1960 election — a close-fought campaign in which religion had played a central role. A picture of Kennedy with Graham, a Catholic priest noted that year, was “pure 14-carat gold, to be laid away at five percent interest until the day of reckoning.”…..
I WONDER HOW NANCY GIBBS AND MICHAEL DUFFY KNOW THAT EISENHOWER MUSED?
Whose reckoning? Kennedy? or Billy Graham?
NANCY GIBBS AND MICHAEL DUFFY ALSO AUTHORED THE BOOK:
The Preacher and the Presidents
I found this article about JFK’s Limo and the controversy surrounding the dent of the chrome topping and the crack of the windshield by
Anthony Marsh
Best Witness: JFK’s Limousine
What I find even more interesting is
Roy Kellerman’s testimony
about the crack on the windshield and the indentatation of the chrome topping
which the fig ( 2H89 ) of that same article by Anthony Marsh includes.
I believe these cars are made for the SS (Secret Service)
for CONTROLLING PUBLIC OFFICIALS!
The neck and back wound of President Kennedy were probably controlled remotely
via holes in the seat of the car
to incapacitate him so there would be no struggle
and keep his posture up
to be assassinated with ease
by the double of Jackie Kennedy.
That is why the doctors thought the wound in the neck was an entry wound otherwise it would have been larger
and because the skin went in.
I believe that wound was made by some tool
LIKE AN AWL
that came from behind him through his back
and through the neck
nicked his tie
and back out the neck and out the back again.
(Testimony of Roy H. , Special Agent, Kellerman)
Mr. Kellerman. There were three gentlemen who were performing this autopsy. A Colonel Finck–during the examination of the President, from the hole that was in his shoulder, and with a probe, and we were standing right alongside of him, he is probing inside the shoulder with his instrument and I said, “Colonel, where did it go?
He said, “There are no lanes for an outlet of this entry in this man’s shoulder.”
Mr. Specter. Did you say anything in response to that?
Mr. Kellerman. I said, “Colonel, would it have been possible that while he was on the stretcher in Dallas that it works itself out?” And he said, “Yes.”
Mr. Specter. Was there any additional conversation between you and Colonel Finck at that time?
Mr. Kellerman. Not on that point; no, sir; not on that point.
Doesn’t look like the side of the tie but the back of the tie!
Doesn’t look like the bullet went through the tie, but pierced it!
Hard to believe President Kennedy’s tie could stop a bullet!
The John F. Kennedy Assassination Homepage
The bells and whistles of
Hess and Eisenhart
They don’t call it
The Beast
For Nothin’
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I wonder what bells and whistles Rev. Wilkerson’s car possessed!
TO be continued……and updated when needed later
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Part 3
THE SIGN
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These are snapshots in order from the Zapruder film
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Assassination of JFK and The Covenant with Many
PART 1
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JFK and Mel Gibson
The Covenant with Many
The Covenant with Many
(revised)
February 11, 2010 By Kevin Flower Israeli archaeologists say they’ve found a 1,500-year-old road, 4.5 meters under the current level of streets in Jerusalem’s Old City.
The reason I am writing this post is because of the prophecy in Daniel that a lot of people write about on blogs and websites.
I don’t understand why the prophecy teachers and scholars that try to have an understanding of Daniel’s prophecies…get stuck on the same mantra.
I am not trying to be different, but I think there have been some colossal mistakes made by scholars, bible teachers and the whole spectrum of experts of the bible.
I don’t see how you can read the Gospel of John and collapse it into the Synoptic gospels and say they blend at all or compliment each other.
In Reality
The Gospel of John and the Synoptic Gospels
collide !
In the book of Daniel it talks about Messiah the Prince and a prince.
Why does everyone think the covenant with many is for the future.
How does one come to that conclusion from these verses?
Daniel 9:25-27
25Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
It is quite possible that the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince has already occurred,
but has been covered up by the
Chief Priests and the Legion – (please read)
Ancient wall found in JerusalemWestern Wall, JerusalemThe Western Wall was built by King Herod in 20 BC during his expansion of the Temple enclosure, and is part of a retaining wall that enclosed the western part of Temple Mount. According to the Roman-Jewish historian Josephus, construction of the walls took 11 years, during which time it rained in Jerusalem only at night so as not to interfere with the workers’ progress. Ancient road found in Jerusalem’s heart
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Obviously, there have been two walls from two different temple eras
and a road!
The only reason I added the above link and the information about the destruction of Jerusalem
and the temple and the destruction again of Jerusalemin in 135 AD
is because it might apply to Daniel’s prophecies.
Perhaps we are wrong about when Jesus really died? Many people seem to think Jesus was 30 or 33 when he started his ministry but in the Gospel of John they refer to him as not yet being 5o years old.
I would say we have a problem within the bible of who and which Jesus is the Messiah!
John 8:56-59
56Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.
57Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?
58Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
59Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.
(Interesting that they threw stones at him.)
“Cephus” means stone.
The Synoptic Gospels have built their “image of Jesus” metaphorically by using stones!
By the way, I believe Cephus refers to Josephus Flavius!
Was there ever a decree to build the temple to the Messiah the Prince?
Perchance the destruction of Jerusalem in 135 AD is a clue?
Maybe the decree to build the temple to the Messiah the Prince occurred before 135 AD!
Seems odd that after the destruction of Jerusalem in 70AD that anyone would need to destroy it again 65 years later.
Building a city takes time, and funds, and manpower,
so why was there a need to destroy it again so soon after it had already been destroyed?
Seems to me that most and maybe all scholars of the bible are making presumptions, because they lump the gospels into one big ball but I think, to be fair,
we should separate the Synoptic Gospels from the Gospel of John
and calculate both sides to see if maybe we can come up with some other answers.
Maybe that is what is meant by the 153 fish which relates to the inferred 153:265 ratio!
Pope Benedict XVI and 153 Great Fish
Pope Benedict XVI is the
265th Pope,
was born Joseph Aloisius Ratzinger
Mel Gibson, George Gänswein, and the Pope
George Gänswein, Pope Benedict XVI, and Mel Gibson
revised
In the two article above that I just recently posted which are very similar I included in both a link to an article I found on the internet about names!
Praising Or Pleading
(POP)
seems to be his (The Pope) MO these days and in this article he pleads for parents to give their children traditional names before baptism so I gather names have meaning to him!
So since they are so important I thought maybe his name might be important also.
The Pope’s Last Name
IN the article
I relate the possibility that the Pope is related to another Pope whose last name was RATTE which would fulfill another prophecy in Revelation 17:11 about him being the eighth and one of the seven:
The Seventh and the Eighth Pope of Revelation- Benedict XVI
But I did not deal with his middle name so:
The Pope’s Middle Name
Aloisius a german name means great warrior but comes from the name
Cleophas meaning and name origin
Cleophas \c-leo-phas\ as a boy’s name is of Greek origin, and the meaning of Cleophas is “visionof glory“.
Biblical name: husband of one of the Marys who stood at the foot of the Cross.
Cleophas has 4 variant forms: Cleo, Cleofas, Cleofaso and Cleophus.
Alphaeus
which is basically the switch from the Synoptic version and Simon from Cyrene who bears the cross and takes over after Jesus is crucified. In essence to REPLACE the true disciples/apostles with his own sons etc because they were the Chief Priests and they wanted to stay that way and replace Jesus with their own perception of Him. It is the great deception! The Synoptic version of the bible (Matthew Mark and Luke) plus many additional books in the bible to form the amalgamation we now call Christianity.
Basically, Rome absconded the truth and twisted it into their baby.
That is why I believe that Mel Gibson has been targeted for his rendition of the Gospels in THE PASSION,
THE BABY or to be more specific THE DEVIL’s BABY
Here are a few posts about that baby!:
Affliction and the Time of Testing
Mel Gibson and the Book of Acts 2
Mel Gibson, Japan Quakes, and the Kamikazes
Mel Gibson, George Gänswein, and the Pope
George Gänswein, Pope Benedict XVI, and Mel Gibson
revised
You might say I went overboard, which is true, but I am trying to learn and to get your attention and the articles are ongoing because of the events which are at present rapidly unfolding.
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Daniel 9:26
26And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
INTERESTING: NICODEMAS MEANS “THE PEOPLE” AND
IT WAS NICODEMAS AND JOSEPH OF ARIMATHEA
THAT BURIED JESUS.
THE POPE’S FIRST NAME
IT’S A GOOD POSSIBILITY THAT JOSEPH OF ARIMATHEA
IS THE “prince of the people“.
Another interesting coincidence: Demas is a fellowlabourer of Paul:
Philemon 1:24
24Marcus, Aristarchus, Demas, Lucas, my fellowlabourers.
You don’t suppose that Demas is Nicodemas?
Joseph of Arimathea (A JUST MAN)
Daniel 9:27
27And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
Sounds to me like in order to cover-up the abomination he had to make it desolate?
Who is “he” in verse 27?
Is “he” the Messiah the Prince?
OR
Is “he” the prince?
It makes a big difference who “he” is in verse 27!
The thing that concerns me is that we have been waiting for some treaty or covenant that will be confirmed and seems to me we ought to know first and foremost:
what is the covenant that is made with the many?
Then try to figure out
who confirms that covenant with the many!
The Covenant with the Many
Many treaties have been made with many people so what kind of treaty will be made with the many and confirmed with the many that this particular prophecy in Daniel is referring to? Certainly it has to do with the prince and the temple and/or worship and/or sin.
Most treaties we read about in the news most people are unaware of so why would Daniel of the bible be speaking of some political treaty that only the few politicians and leaders involved realize. This is a prophecy about the Messiah the Prince and the people of the prince and he (I assume is the prince of the people)
But it isn’t a treaty that Daniel talks about….it’s a covenant!
To be more specific it is the “covenant with many”!
What is the covenant with many?
I looked up “covenant” in the bible search on line and found a lot of covenants.
The covenant that caught my eye is the one that the Synoptic Jesus makes with the Synoptic disciples at the Synoptic Last Supper
and the verses about this covenant uses the word many.
I think that is a BIG CLUE about this covenant!
MATTHEW 26:26-29
26And as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and blessed it, and brake it, and gave it to the disciples, and said, Take, eat; this is my body.27And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, Drink ye all of it;28For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.29But I say unto you, I will not drink henceforth of this fruit of the vine, until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father’s kingdom.
MARK 14:22-25
22And as they did eat, Jesus took bread, and blessed, and brake it, and gave to them, and said, Take, eat: this is my body.23And he took the cup, and when he had given thanks, he gave it to them: and they all drank of it.24And he said unto them, This is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many.25Verily I say unto you, I will drink no more of the fruit of the vine, until that day that I drink it new in the kingdom of God.
LUKE 22:15-20
15And he said unto them, With desire I have desired to eat this passover with you before I suffer:16For I say unto you, I will not any more eat thereof, until it be fulfilled in the kingdom of God.17And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and said, Take this, and divide it among yourselves:18For I say unto you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine, until the kingdom of God shall come.19And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me.20Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you.
THE GOSPEL OF JOHN
DOES NOT MENTION THIS
NEW TESTAMENT/Covenant with many!
I THINK THAT IS VERY SIGNIFICANT THAT THE
New Testament/Covenant
IS ABSENT IN
THE GOSPEL OF JOHN!
The three Synoptic gospels don’t mention the washing of the feet,
nor the dialogue that Jesus has with his disciples explaining what is going to happen
and many other things that is worth the time to study.
WHAT IS GOING ON?
Why are the Synoptic Gospels account of the Last Supper so different than the Gospel of John?
Were there two different “LAST SUPPERS”?
For a break and for fun in an ironic way,
Please watch:
The Last, But One Supper
(It is a Monty Python skit with John Cleese acting like the Pope)
THE GOSPEL OF MATTHEW SAYS THAT BLOOD OF THE NEW TESTAMENT/Covenant WHICH IS SHED FOR THE MANY is
FOR THE “REMISSION OF SINS“.
THE OTHER TWO SYNOPTICS GOSPELS (MARK AND LUKE) EXCLUDE THE “REMISSION OF SINS” TO THE NEW TESTAMENT/Covenant.
THE GOSPEL OF MATTHEW AND THE GOSPEL OF MARK SAY THAT THE BLOOD OF THE NEW TESTAMENT/covenant IS SHED FOR THE MANY.
BUT THE GOSPEL OF LUKE SAYS IT IS FOR YOU. (HE IS TALKING TO HIS DISCIPLES)
EVEN THOUGH THESE SYNOPTIC GOSPELS ARE IN AGREEMENT THAT THERE IS A
NEW TESTAMENT/Covenant.
THEY ARE DISAGREEING AS TO WHO THE NEW TESTAMENT/Covenant IS FOR…..
THEMSELVES (YOU) OR THE MANY.
(I HATE TO BE A JERK!)
BUT THE ACCOUNTS GIVEN OF THE “LAST SUPPER” BY THE SYNOPTIC GOSPELS IN THE NEW TESTAMENT (NT as opposed to the OT)
DIFFER A GREAT DEAL AS TO THIS “NEW TESTAMENT/Covenant” AND ARE WORLDS APART FROM THE GOSPEL OF JOHN
SINCE this “New Testament”
DOESN’T EVEN OCCUR IN THE GOSPEL OF JOHN.
THE PRAYER AND THE DIALOGUE OF JESUS WITH HIS DISCIPLES
HAPPENS ONLY IN THE GOSPEL OF JOHN AND THERE IS QUITE A BIT OF INFORMATION GIVEN!
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Another point by Paul Carlson in his article below, I get the impression that Paul Carlson thinks that all of the contradictions that are contained in the NT makes everything written about Jesus a lie and that is not my point!
I don’t believe that!
I think Jesus the Messiah did come and so did false messiahs and their many supporters
to quell the truth against Him and His true apostles
for money, power and control.
It’s like saying, for example, that the September 11th terrorist attack on the Twin Terrors weren’t destroyed because 3 or 4 witnesses/terrorists don’t tell the same story, hence it’s all a lie and the Twin Towers are still there. That is ridiculous! But that is the point in having contradictions so that some people will come to that conclusion! Obviously, the Twin Towers were destroyed and something very big happened, because they are no longer there.
Deception is in the bible purposefully
to deceive
and to reveal!
In other words, it works both ways!
An oxymoron (plural oxymorons or oxymora) (from Greek ὀξύμωρον, “sharp dull”) is a figure of speechthat combines contradictory terms. Oxymorons appear in a variety of contexts, including inadvertent errors such as extremely average and literary oxymorons crafted to reveal a paradox.
Truth is a funny thing, because it is quite possible these contradictions were said
and did actually happen
…..but by who?
Why don’t the experts and scholars of the bible raise the possibility of what seems to be written in black and white in the bible? I get the impression they are hiding from what seems to be obvious …….
but why?
When Jesus came it made such a stir that Jerusalem was destroyed and their temple, Rome was destroyed and Jerusalem was destroyed again 65 years later. Jesus was big news and his coming had major ramifications! And I believe his enemies made sure of the destruction. propaganda and deception to cover up the truth! History was rewritten to hide the truth and many people were slaughtered!
People that lived under the rule of the Romans were slaughtered when they wrote anything that would make the Romans look bad. And I am convinced those times are coming again soon. So when you read Josephus and other writers, keep in mind that they could lose their lives for what they wrote and so maybe there are hidden meanings to their stories. Contradictions may abound in the bible and in the history given by the major history authors (Josephus included, even though his accounts seem to be false IMO) to point us to the truth while avoiding the threat of death for us to be able to discern via archeology and other avenues and the unfolding, at the right time! Possibly the power that caused so much destruction was something other than just the Romans, because they also suffered and suffer now, because they lack the truth and are deceived…..they just don’t realize it!
And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High,
and think to change times and laws:
and they shall be given into his hand
until
a time and times and the dividing of time.
I think that is what is meant by the words “time and times and the dividing of times” is what has been written about that time and the deception about those times.
I think we are in the times prophesied by Daniel and specifically
the “Dividing of time”.
Please read the following fantastic article I found on the internet which is linked next:
The Reliance of Luke-Acts on the Writings of Flavius Josephus
…..”So, Steve Mason, associate Professor of Humanities at York University, Ontario asks:
“If Luke did not know of Josephus’ work, how did this language suggest itself to him?”[5]….
Daniel is talking about he, the prince that was to come,
the prince that Jesus warns us about in the gospel of John.
So when you link to this site below by Paul Carlson and/or read my articles that talk about contradictions in the bible
keep in mind that just because there are contradictions
doesn’t mean it did not occur!
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New Testament Contradictions (1995)
Paul Carlson
A. WHEN – BEFORE OR DURING PASSOVER?
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The Blood Covenant at the Last Supper
in the Synoptic Gospels seems to be a bit odd
since Jesus had not died yet!
I know I must seem like I’m just quibbling about small details,
(although they are not small to me)
but
since it is a contract
it seems to me it should be very clear and concise!
All I can tell is that this NEW TESTAMENT/covenant
is for “many”
or for
“you” which was “them” (the disciples sitting at the table).
Why the controversy?
Can’t they even agree on what the “New Testament” /covenant is,
and who it is between,
and what it is for?
The reason this is so IMPORTANT to me is that I have found many problems in the Synoptic Gospels
and have an inclination
to distrust their word of the Word.
New Testament
the collection of the books of the Bible that were produced by the early Christian church, comprising the Gospels, Acts of the Apostles, the Epistles, and the Revelation of St. John the Divine.
Could the
“Covenant with many”
spoken about by Daniel be the
“Covenant with many”
made at the Last Supper
in the Synoptic Gospels?
Makes sense to me!
If so, then who confirms this covenant?
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Whoever confirms this covenant could be the “he” in verse Daniel 9:27
In my last article on another blog, I wrote called Abomination of Desolation: Part one
(which is also linked here and at the bottom of this post)
the Synoptic Jesus in the Gospels of Matthew and Luke
talks about desolation:
Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.
Behold, your house is left unto you desolate:
and verily I say unto you,
Ye shall not see me, until the time come when ye shall say,
Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.
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They themselves
(The Synoptic Gospels of Matthew, Mark and Luke)
testify to the
“Desolation” and a “Covenant with Many”
Remember:
the Covenant is not in tbe Gospel of John
nor is desolation mentioned.
and hath nothing in me.
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in the past tense:
Flavious Josephus And the Apostle Paul Were the Same Person?, page 1
Joseph of Arimathea (A JUST MAN)
The Synoptic “Q Source”
Josephus and His Footprints
The Dividing of Times – Part One
It must be that he is trying to hide who he is!
WHY?
Could Josephus Flavius be the “prince” ?
Could he have been the one to make a covenant with many?
Could Josephus be Cephus?
THE STONE
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Could Josephus Flavius Son of Matthew be Joseph of ARIMathea
peculiar behavior of the Secret Service
about the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.
“A very interesting you -tube I watched recently of Donald Rumsfeld slip of the tongue, and I have linked it. Pay close attention to what he says about the the shooting down of the plane and the Pentagon and the reaction of the people in the background. Makes me think the Secret Service are a bit more powerful than I ever imagined. The Treasury Department runs the Secret Service. That is interesting since we are in debt up to our EARS. President Bush SR used to head the CIA. Hmmmmmmmmm. I wonder if Rumsfeld didn’t do that on purpose for our benefit? You never know! I hope so.”
The article below shows the relationship of banking
1 Timothy 6:10
For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.
Please Read:
The Synoptic “Q Source”
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What we do know is that
President John Kennedy
was killed because of his posture and his actions
exposing
SECRET SOCIETIES.
Time is our ally.
1 Corinthians 3:22
22Whether Paul, or Apollos, or Cephas,
or the world,
or life, or death,
or things present, or things to come;
all are your’s;
John 14:30
Hereafter I will not talk much with you:
for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.
[and compare to what Paul says]
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The God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which is blessed for evermore, knoweth that I lie not.
But be it so, I did not burden you: nevertheless, being crafty,
I caught you
Guile
MANY OTHER NAMES
Covenant
Vatican and Arab League sign agreement
Magen David Adom Covenant
– The value of saving lives as seen by the three religions,
will be presented to the Pope
Masada
Solved mystery of Masada remains
The Works of Flavius Josephus
Flavius Josephus
Luke and Josephus (2000)
The shipwrecks of Josephus and Paul (Part 3)
Josephus and the New Testament
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My last *four posts that I believe relate to the subject of the covenant follow:
*Abomination of Desolation: Part one
*The Abomination of Desolation Part 2
*In The Garden of Gethsemane
*Sour Wine
Josephus and His Footprints
CONFIRMATION OF THE COVENANT
The Fruits of the Vatican
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Magen David Adom Covenant
– The value of saving lives as seen by the three religions, will be presented to the Pope
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I Am That I Am (The Sign) -Revised *
I AM THAT I AM (Part two)
I Am the True Vine
If you have read any of my articles I have a basic theme throughout most of my posts on my blogs and it is that the Synoptic (Gospels of Matthew, Mark and Luke), Acts and many other epistles are false! I believe they represent a false Messiah and a False Prophet! I believe I have proven beyond a reasonable doubt quite often that they contradict each other and are antithetical to the gospel of John. They promote a political agenda to control the people and quell the truth about Jesus and his message.I think the synoptic gospels were written by thieves of the true Word of God and his true apostles.
I believe these guys killed the true apostles, stole what they could from them, altered their messages, rewrote history to cover up their crime, in collusion with the the powers that be at the time to create their own version of Jesus and God.
The contradictions are pretty apparent if you compare the gospels to each other and read the bible critically. For many years, I didn’t study, but just read what other people thought and still kept running into a cement wall. I don’t think I have all the answers, yet nor do I think I will attain that ever in my lifetime. I write in my blogs as I am learning and hope it will help others that have also questioned the same things I question that is written about God and Jesus.
I don’t think it is healthy to accept what we have been fed for years as “the truth” I think it is healthier to question, study and discuss. I don’t think the ecclesiastic entity appreciates our freedom to question it’s authority on their interpretation of what is written in the bible but who said they have the right to quell our search for the truth? To them it is Apostacy,,,the falling away…. I say it is Apostacy from them, and falling away from them. They think they have the answers…..
I dont think they have the answers, so thats why I write my blogs. Enuf said on that!
The Abomination of Desolation Part 2
The Christological Symbol (Brazen Serpent Sculpture), created by Italian artist, Giovanni Fantoni, stands atop Mount Nebo. It is symbolic of the bronze serpent created by Moses in the wilderness (Numbers 21:4-9) and the cross upon which Jesus was crucified (John 3:14).
Mount Nebo
According to the 2 Maccabees 2:4-7, the Prophet Jeremiah hid the tabernacle and the Ark of the Covenant here.
Recent history
ISRAEL: The pope’s gifts–taking stock
Significance to Christianity
“As Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life“.[11]
Hezekiah destroyed the brazen serpent, calling it Nehushtan, or “a lump of brass.” From this it was argued by some that rulers in Church and State have authority to prohibit, in the public worship of God, the use of things that have been abused to Idolatry. [1] But this likely falls short of the true significance of Hezekiah’s actions – the condemnation of idol worship that has replaced true worship. Conservative scholars note a similar episode in the life of Gideon [12] as a theological parallel. [2][3] The Apostle Paul condemns this principle of replacement in Romans 1.22-23, 25.
The creation of a bronze snake (the Nehustan) is attributed to Moses in the Book of Numbers (Numbers 21:6).
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Numbers 21:5-9
5And the people spake against God, and against Moses, Wherefore have ye brought us up out of Egypt to die in the wilderness? for there is no bread, neither is there any water; and our soul loatheth this light bread.
6And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
7Therefore the people came to Moses, and said, We have sinned, for we have spoken against the LORD, and against thee; pray unto the LORD, that he take away the serpents from us. And Moses prayed for the people.
8And the LORD said unto Moses, Make thee a fiery serpent, and set it upon a pole: and it shall come to pass, that every one that is bitten, when he looketh upon it, shall live.
9And Moses made a serpent of brass, and put it upon a pole, and it came to pass, that if a serpent had bitten any man, when he beheld the serpent of brass, he lived.
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2 Kings 18:4
4He removed the high places, and brake the images, and cut down the groves, and brake in pieces the brasen serpent that Moses had made: for unto those days the children of Israel did burn incense to it: and he called it Nehushtan.
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Book of Zephaniah
Some scholars believe that much of the material does not date from the days of King Josiah (ca. 640-609 BC), but is actually post-monarchic. Three general possibilities are that a person, possibly named Zephaniah, prophesied the words of the book of Zephaniah; the general message of a Josianic prophet is conveyed through the book of Zephaniah; or the name could have been employed, either during the monarchic or post-monarchic period, as a ‘speaking voice’, possibly for rhetorical purposes. Although it is possible that a post-monarchic author assumed the persona of a monarchic prophet to add credibility to his message, there is no evidence to support such a claim.
Zephaniah
THE LINK PRECEDING states that Zephaniah the prophet of the Book of Zephaniah is the only prophet of the prophets in the OT that gives a partial genealogy of himself.
I wonder why Zephaniah would give his partial genealogy and what difference does it make? Why bother?
I looked up the gospel of Matthew to see if Hezekiah was part of the genealogy of Jesus that Matthew proposes in his gospel and it does include Hezekiah in the NIV and Ezekias in the KJV:
Matthew 1:9 NIV
9Uzziah the father of Jotham, Jotham the father of Ahaz, Ahaz the father of Hezekiah,
Matthew 1:9 KJV
9And Ozias begat Joatham; and Joatham begat Achaz; and Achaz begat Ezekias;
I am assuming that Hezekiah and Ezekias are one and the same person, but I don’t know!
I believe that Zephaniah supports the Gospel of Matthew’s genealogy up to Hezekiah/Ezekias to support himself as a true prophet and the Gospel of Matthew is using the prophets book of Zephaniah (his genealogy) to support his claim to being the Messiah with the other two synoptic renditions of Jesus (Gospels of Mark and Luke) in collusion with the Q source, Paul, his family, followers and cohorts and Josephus Flavius son of Matthew (historian) and his account of history
to quell the truth about Jesus written about in the Gospel of John.
and I believe it is not by accident, but purposeful with the intent to deceive and promote a false Jesus. If you read my posts you will see lots and lots of examples to support my belief.
There is a world of difference between the Gospel of John and the other gospels and they should be examined carefully!
Daniel 7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.
I think history has been multiplied and divided to hide the prophetic events people are expecting to come that have already occurred and to confuse the masses about who Jesus was, when he came, and why he came. It is not a mistake or just differing viewpoints of that time that can explain the differences between the Synoptic Gospels and the Gospel of John!
Josephus and the holy books of Jerusalem
Below is an article presented by ChristianAnswers with a listing of many prophecies about the identification of Jesus:
Messianic Prophecies
“More specificially, he would be of the house of David (2 Samuel 7:12-16; Jeremiah 23:5; Psalm 89:3-4). Fulfilled: See Christ’s genealogy in Matthew 1; Luke 1:27, 32, 69. Note: Since the the Jewish genealogical records were destroyed in 70 A.D., along with the destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple, it would not be possible for a Messiah imposter who was born later to prove his lineage back to David and thus fulfill this prophecy.”
Do you think this may mean that there might actually have been a false Messiah that wants to replace the true Messiah back in those days?
It is no accident that the records were destroyed!
SO anyone that comes saying he is the Messiah in this present age OR IN THE PAST cannot possibly prove his IDENTIFICATION BY HIS GENEALOGY!
The messiah is supposed to come from the line of David, but if you recall one of David’s sons called Soloman had hundreds of wives!
I believe the Abomination of Desolation occurred then, but often times prophecies have a dual fulfillment and meaning so it could be possible that it will happen again. Also SOME FULFILLMENTs OF PROPHECIES ARE FALSE FULFILLMENTS CREATED AND IMPLEMENTED BY A FALSE PROPHET AND A FALSE MESSIAH TO PROVE THEIR FALSE ID-ENTITY AND FALSE PROPHECIES!
The gospels of Matthew and Luke WROTE that there was Desolation:
Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.
Behold, your house is left unto you desolate: and verily I say unto you, Ye shall not see me, until the time come when ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.
DON’T YOU FIND THAT THESE STATEMENTS PROVE THAT AN ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION HAS ALREADY OCCURRED desolation for sure. AND BOTH THE GOSPEL OF MATTHEW AND THE GOSPEL OF LUKE SEEM TO REFLECT THIS IN THESE STATEMENTS (ATTRIBUTED TO JESUS) ABOVE AND ALSO SEEM TO BE RELISHING IT!
THEY ARE TRYING TO SAY THAT THE MESSIAH HIMSELF SAYS THESE WORDS PROPHETICALLY IN THE GOSPEL OF MATTHEW
YET, IF IT ALREADY HAPPENED
HOW IS THAT PROPHETIC?
IF A PROPHECY IS WRITTEN ABOUT THE PAST
SHOULDN’T IT BE CONSIDERED HISTORY
AND A FALSE PROPHECY!
If the Gospel of Matthew is looking back in history to make prophetic statements about things of the past (implying the desolation of Jerusalem and the Temple) obviously the genealogical records were destroyed by the time the gospel of Matthew was completed then why bother adding genealogy of Jesus to his text? There is no way to prove or disprove his genealogy and the gospel writer of Matthew must realize this Catch-22.
It seems to me that the statements about
‘beholding their desolation’ etc.,
written by the false prophets and false shepherds/wolves
who wrote the gospels of Matthew, Mark and Luke
are the poison
that Jesus warns his disciples
about at the last supper
in the Gospel of John!
I believe that the story in Numbers 21:4-9 is a prophetic picture pointing us to what is written in the Gospel of John because Jesus knew what would be written about him in the other gospels. When a person discovers the lies in the Synoptic Gospels or discovers the contradictions in the bible. it can be disconcerting and take a person’s faith down a notch or two and for some can even make them lose faith totally in what is written. I have come often to different levels of despair about the contradictions because of what is written in the gospels, the OT, and in the history information afforded us, but when I read the gospel of John and read about Jesus in most parts, it helps me to believe when I am at my lowest.
I honestly think the devil is in the details of the gospels! I think we have been robbed of so much by the powers in the church that supposedly protected the gospels. Nevertheless there are morsels left in the gospels to hold us over.
I have a hard time with people that say not to believe because there are contradictions. It is like saying there was never a temple because now there is a mosque sitting in the same spot. That’s ridiculous. Or when someone says that the holocaust did not occur. We luckily have photos to show the evidence of the holocaust which we did not have in the biblical days. The only way to keep the truth in the gospels was to allow the lies, otherwise all would have been lost. So when you find a contradiction in the bible and there are many, many of them, it is a good idea to do research in other books, gospels, anywhere that you can find information (and also pray) and eventually the truth will shine through the lies that have been sown purposefully to trip you up and wear you down.
They are the stones!
That’s why I believe that what happened to the Hebrews in Numbers was for this generation also to look past the lies and see!
Read the Gospel of John and learn it well and it will help to see more clearly.
As far as the Synoptic Gospels there are some outstanding parts that very well could be true, but mixed in are some parts that just do not measure up to the standards of reliability.
In many ways life itself is a contradiction. We are living in times that are very similar to the confusion that engulfed those days in Israel but we now have access to more information than ever before and we should take advantage of what we have been given to sort it out, so to speak.
There is no comparison to any other than who, what and why Jesus came!
Even if you have to read between the lines He is a miracle!
Life is a miracle but full of a lot of diversions, slippery slopes, pit falls, and lessons, etc. which makes life hard to live sometimes.
Abomination of Desolation: Part one
The Covenant with Many
CONFIRMATION OF THE COVENANT
Salute No Man
Joseph of Arimathea (A JUST MAN)
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Josephus and His Footprints
Wiki: Josephus problem
The problem is named after Flavius Josephus, a Jewish historian living in the 1st century. According to Josephus’ account of the siege of Yodfat, he and his 40 comrade soldiers were trapped in a cave, the exit of which is blocked by Romans. They chose suicide over capture and decided that they would form a circle and start killing themselves using a step of three. Josephus states that by luck or maybe by the hand of God (modern scholars point out that Josephus was a well educated scholar and predicted the outcome), he and another man remained the last and gave up to the Romans.
Using a step of three? What does this mean?
Alter steps?
OR DOES JOSEPHUS MEAN THE ROMAN CATHOLIC STEPS OF SAINTHOOD?
Steps to Sainthood: the third being a martyr?
Third Step: To be beatified and recognized as a “Blessed,” one miracle acquired through the candidate’s intercession is required in addition to recognition of heroic virtue (or martyrdom in the case of a martyr).
Wiki: Siege of Yodfat
The Siege of Yodfat (Hebrew: יוֹדְפַת, also Jotapata, Iotapata, Yodefat) was a 47 day siege by Roman forces of the Jewish town of Yodfat which took place in 67 CE, during theGreat Revolt. Led by Roman General Vespasian and his son Titus, both future emperors, the siege ended with the sacking of the town, the deaths of most of its inhabitants and the enslavement of the rest. It was the second bloodiest battle of the revolt, surpassed only by the sacking of Jerusalem, and the longest bar Jerusalem and Masada. The siege was chronicled by Josephus, who had personally commanded the Jewish forces at Yodfat and was subsequently captured by the Romans. [2]
I have a big problems with the story
told by Flavius Josephus!
1) My first concern is why does Josephus not tell how the people committed suicide or killed each other EXCEPT that they cut each others neck.
2) Who decided that it would be every third person?
3) Who decided where each person would stand?
4) and who decided where to start the circle!
It sounds to me like a cruel joke!
If I were there I would be switching places a bunch. It makes no sense! I cannot imagine that all 41 of those soldiers (“forty persons of eminency that had concealed themselves”) would all be desiring the same fate of death! What kind of military people were they, or were they a different kind of army? Was this cave actually a choking point?
IF they were going to kill each other so that they would not commit suicide, why not fight the enemy to the death?
This story is full of holes!
I thought Flavius Josephus was a general, but as he says he was assisted by
a certain supernatural providence!
Interesting choice of words!
The next link is a simulation game of the Josephus dilemma!
Please click on the title below:
Josephus Flavius game
Josephus Flavius was a famous Jewish historian of the first century at the time of the Second Temple destruction. During the Jewish-Roman war he got trapped in a cave with a group of 40 soldiers surrounded by romans. The legend has it that preferring suicide to capture, the Jews decided to form a circle and, proceeding around it, to kill every third remaining person until no one was left. Josephus, not keen to die, quickly found the safe spot in the circle and thus stayed alive.
If Josephus was trapped in a cave with 40 other soldiers or eminent persons, then there were a total of 41 people in the cave, including himself. He says that two people survived this suicide pact, Josephus and some other person.
Why doesn’t he include the name of the other person that survived with him?
And as he was very desirous neither to be condemned by the lot, nor, if he had been left to the last, to imbrue his right hand in the blood of his countrymen, he persuaded him to trust his fidelity to him, and to live as well as himself.
Basically, Josephus bribed the other guy (obviously in a private way) so that the others would not hear and which must have been in his concscience,
which means that Josephus acted as a Devil!
How did Josephus persuade this other man to go along to get along? The other men were there…did they not notice Josephus offering “his fidelity” and “the good life” to this other fellow?
Sounds like a bribe to me!
IN the simulation game in the link above Josephus would have been the 16th person or the 31st person in the circle to survive!
What a difference it makes where he stood in that circle!
Did he arrange the soldiers (eminent persons)? Wasn’t he in charge?
Josephus says that they drew lots!
How do you draw lots to kill every third person ?
Here is what Josephus says happened, but it still does not make any sense since his 40 fellow cavemen were EXTREMELY desirous that he die with them, so he says!
Why in the world would they (his fellow cavemen) wait for him to be second to the last, or the last?
Please read what Josephus said happened below:
There is nothing about the third step in this account!
Josephus lied and connived for his cavemen to kill each other instead of suicide or fighting the Romans, if you believe Josephus!
“let us commit our mutual deaths to determination by lot“
It was Josephus that made up this brilliant plan to draw lots!
These guys must have been out of their minds, definitely deceived, perhaps from fasting, exhaustion, or something else.
I don’t believe it!
I think he murdered them, probably with poison!
Remember Mithradatism?
The mustard seed was used for anecdotes for many things including scorpian bites and poison in Egypt!
Recall Cephas in the BIBLE? Josephus is Cephas.
JOSEPHUS is the STONE!
Remember that Paulus said:
1 Corinthians 3:22
22Whether Paul, or Apollos, or Cephas, or the world, or life, or death, or things present, or things to come; all are your’s;
Another bribe!
Galatians 2:9
And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we should go unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision
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I have never heard of a general in any military who would get his men to commit suicide or murder their fellow soldier beside them, but instead would hold off the enemy as long as possible, or fight the enemy to the death, or surrender! But it depends on what kind of army we are speaking of. I have a feeling these men were priests!
Wasn’t murdering each other a sin, to the Jews?
This does not make sense!
He did try to abandon them early on in “his own account”, because he was the false shepherd, the false christ (of the gospels of Matthew, Mark and Luke), the instigator, and the destroyer!
Josephus seems to know everything and even what people thought
miles and miles away.
He “set up” the Jews for destruction.
I think he is the devil!
The EYE of Horus!
The Prince of this world that Jesus spoke about that was coming! (In the Gospel of John)
“Thou, O Vespasian, thinkest no more than that thou hast taken Josephus himself captive; but I come to thee as a messenger of greater tidings; for had not I been sent by God to thee, I knew what was the law of the Jews in this case?
Now Josephus is bribing Vespasian!
(He sounds like the fallen angel Lucifer!)
IN fact, he sounds like the Gospel of Luke’s angel that visited Mary!
Even Paul’s angel in the book of Acts!
And then Josephus continues his bribe to Vespasian:
….and how it becomes generals to die. Dost thou send me to Nero? For why? Are Nero’s successors till they come to thee still alive? Thou, O Vespasian, art Caesar and emperor, thou, and this thy son. Bind me now still faster, and keep me for thyself, for thou, O Caesar, are not only lord over me, but over the land and the sea, and all mankind; and certainly I deserve to be kept in closer custody than I now am in, in order to be punished, if I rashly affirm any thing of God.”
YUCK!
Sounds very slithery!
Yosef Ben-Matityahu had hidden in one of the caves that litter the site, along with 40 other prominent citizens of Yodfat. Although Ben-Matityahu was in favour of surrendering to the Romans, the majority of his comrades opted to kill themselves rather than fall into Roman hands. [4] As suicide is considered sinful, they decided to draw lots to kill each other. Ben-Matityahu and another man, however, were the last to survive, and both resolved to give themselves up. [18] Taken to see the Roman general, Ben-Matityahu prophesied that Vespasian would one day become emperor. Vespasian subsequently spared the rebel leader, who began collaborating with the Romans. At first a slave, he would later be freed and be granted Roman citizenship as Flavius Josephus. [4][19]
I looked up what happened in history in 1631 to see if anything pertaining to that number of the Josephus JOTAPATA survivors which were # 16 and # 31 of the infamous circle suicide had occurred (just for the heck of it) and I found a few interesting facts WHICH I believe ARE related …..
The ERUPTION OF VESUVIUS in 1631
AND MORE STRANGER THAN THAT
King James Bible, 1631 edition –One Word Makes a World of DifferenceIn the 1631 edition printing of the King James Bible, in Exodus 20:14, a very small word was forgotten by the printers. The word “not”. This changed the 7th commandment to say Thou shalt commit adultery!Botched 1631 King James Bible
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One find of particular interest is an 8 by 11 cm stone slab, found in the residential area on the eastern slope of Yodfat, [9] covered on both sides with scratched drawings made by a pointed tool. One side depicts a building with a triangular roof upon a podium, a small tree and a harp, and is thought to portray a Nefesh (a traditional Judean mausoleum). The other side of the stone features a crab, the astrological symbol of the Hebrew month of Tammuz, on the first day of which Yodfat fell. The stone is believed to have been the work of a besieged Jew anticipating his own impending doom, [7] [22] and its likeness has been etched on a modern memorial to the defenders of Yodfat placed at the foot of the Roman siege ramp.
made by a pointed tool
Perhaps an aul?
I mean, an awl!
Capstone
“One side depicts a building with a triangular roof upon a podium”
Psalm 118:22
The stone the builders rejected has become the capstone;
“What are you, O mighty mountain? Before Zerubbabel you will become level ground. Then he will bring out the capstone to shouts of ‘God bless it! God bless it!’ “
Matthew 21:42
Jesus said to them, “Have you never read in the Scriptures: ” ‘The stone the builders rejected has become the capstone ; the Lord has done this, and it is marvelous in our eyes’ ?
Mark 12:10
Haven’t you read this scripture: ” ‘The stone the builders rejected has become the capstone ;
Luke 20:17
Jesus looked directly at them and asked, “Then what is the meaning of that which is written: ” ‘The stone the builders rejected has become the capstone
Acts 4:11
He is ” ‘the stone you builders rejected, which has become the capstone.
1 Peter 2:7
Now to you who believe, this stone is precious. But to those who do not believe, “The stone the builders rejected has become the capstone, “
Funny, the Gospel of John says nothing about a capstone!
But the Gospel of Luke says:
Luke 20:18
Whosoever shall fall upon that stone shall be broken; but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.
a small tree
Probably the mustard tree which is small and is told about via parables in the gospels of Matthew, Mark, and Luke,
but not in the gospel of John!
and a harp
More than likely referring to Nero or
maybe a fallen angel!
The ANGEL OF DEATH!
Maybe HAARP is the meaning to this sign?
a Nefesh
and is thought to portray a Nefesh (a traditional Judean mausoleum)
A Crab
a crab, the astrological symbol of the Hebrew month of Tammuz, on the first day of which Yodfat fell
It looks more like an eye to me!
EYE OF HORUS
Then there looks to be a picture of a scarab which does not seem to be mentioned?
It is voice from the past which could have been a warning, a message,
or could be a footprint,
IE
A signature! A possible premonition?
In June, we found the water cisterns completely full of water
but Josephus said in chapter 7 of Book 3:
12. Now the besieged had plenty of corn within the city, and indeed of all necessaries, but they wanted water, because there was no fountain in the city, the people being there usually satisfied with rain water; yet is it a rare thing in that country to have rain in summer, and at this season, during the siege, they were in great distress for some contrivance to satisfy their thirst;
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Book 3 of
The History Of The Destruction Of Jerusalem
Interesting !!
In Number 3 of Chapter 2 of Book 3 Josephus talks about Niger which I have linked.
Remember Niger of the Bible?
Acts 13:1
Now there were in the church that was at Antioch certain prophets and teachers; as Barnabas, and Simeon that was called Niger, and Lucius of Cyrene, and Manaen, which had been brought up with Herod the tetrarch, and Saul.
But their former ill fortune followed them, as the consequence of their unskilfulness, and other deficiencies in war; for Antonius laid ambushes for them in the passages they were to go through, where they fell into snares unexpectedly, and where they were encompassed about with horsemen, before they could form themselves into a regular body for fighting, and were above eight thousand of them slain; so all the rest of them ran away, and with them Niger, who still did a great many bold exploits in his flight. However, they were driven along together by the enemy, who pressed hard upon them, into a certain strong tower belonging to a village called Bezedeh However, Antonius and his party, that they might neither spend any considerable time about this tower, which was hard to be taken, nor suffer their commander, and the most courageous man of them all, to escape from them, they set the wall on fire; and as the tower was burning, the Romans went away rejoicing, as taking it for granted that Niger was destroyed; but he leaped out of the tower into a subterraneous cave, in the innermost part of it, and was preserved; and on the third day afterward he spake out of the ground to those that with great lamentation were searching for him, in order to give him a decent funeral; and when he was come out, he filled all the Jews with an unexpected joy, as though he were preserved by God’s providence to be their commander for the time to come.
4. And now Vespasian took along with him his army from Antioch, (which is the metropolis of Syria,
How does Josephus know these particulars?
Joseph of Arimathea (A JUST MAN)
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THE PARABLE OF FAITH -PART ONE
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THE PARABLE OF FAITH – PART ONE
PART ONE
The other night I was watching Face Off with my daughter who loves the artistry of makeup. The show is very creative and a lot of fun to watch. The theme of the show that night was about Fears: The contestants had to create a monster from a particular fear or phobia. While inspecting the monsters that were created Tom Sevini, an American actor, stuntman, director, award-winning special effects and makeup artist and one of the judges on the shoe that night mentioned a person he knew from a famous horror movie who had scars on his neck for many years that were the result of mustard gas. He said the wounds had never healed, but remained open sores.
I challenge whoever reads this series about the mustard seed parable
to truthfully consider the possibility that this parable
is fraudulent, deceptive, and misleading!
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FAITH AS A GRAIN OF MUSTARD SEED
Matthew 13:31-32
31Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is like to a grain of mustard seed, which a man took, and sowed in his field:
32Which indeed is the least of all seeds: but when it is grown, it is the greatest among herbs, and becometh a tree, so that the birds of the air come and lodge in the branches thereof.
Matthew 17:14-21
14And when they were come to the multitude, there came to him a certain man, kneeling down to him, and saying,15Lord, have mercy on my son: for he is lunatick, and sore vexed: for ofttimes he falleth into the fire, and oft into the water.16And I brought him to thy disciples, and they could not cure him.17Then Jesus answered and said, O faithless and perverse generation, how long shall I be with you? how long shall I suffer you? bring him hither to me.18And Jesus rebuked the devil; and he departed out of him: and the child was cured from that very hour.19Then came the disciples to Jesus apart, and said, Why could not we cast him out?20And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you.
21Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting.
The disciples did not have the faith as a grain of mustard seed
to help banish the devil from the child,
yet it is only faith of a grain of mustard seed that can move mountains!
Jesus in the gospel of Matthew says that the kind of devil the disciples were attempting to banish from the child would not depart without prayer and fasting.
So their faith was not enough,
EVEN if they had faith as a grain of mustard seed!
HUGE CONTRADICTION!
The gospel of John does not include the parable of the Mustard Seed!
Why?
Because the parable is a lie!
I wonder why Jesus (in the gospels of Matthew, Mark and Luke) did not demonstrate this faith by MOVING/REMOVING a real mountain?
I MAINTAIN THAT THE JESUS SPEAKING IN THE GOSPELS OF MATTHEW, MARK, AND LUKE COULD NOT MOVE/REMOVE A MOUNTAIN!
What kind of mountain are they referring to?
Could this parable be referring to
Isaiah 14:12-14
12How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
13For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God:
I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
14I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
It is a great possibility that this is the mountain that the synoptic gospels are referring to in the Parable of the Mustard Seed!
Mark 4:30-32
30And he said, Whereunto shall we liken the kingdom of God? or with what comparison shall we compare it?31It is like a grain of mustard seed, which, when it is sown in the earth, is less than all the seeds that be in the earth:32But when it is sown, it groweth up, and becometh greater than all herbs, and shooteth out great branches; so that the fowls of the air may lodge under the shadow of it.
Here is an article/blog that discusses the truth about the mustard seed!
PLEASE READ!
In the Bible versus the Quran: the Mustard seed is the smallest of all the seeds on earth
The mustard seed is NOT the smallest seed on earth!
That is an out and out lie!
The World’s Smallest & Largest Seed
The authors of the gospels of Matthew, Mark, and Luke
were either ignorant of the truth about the smallest of seeds on earth,
or they lied!
If they lied about this FACT,
what else have they lied about??????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
IN answer to the man’s question as to whether the Quran is an offshoot of the bible, I would respond with a definite YES, at least THE QURAN is an offshoot of the gospels of Matthew, Mark and Luke!
The Jesus in the three synoptic gospels is not the true Son of God
as I have written about numerous times in most of my articles on my blogs!
Syria has begun moving its chemical weapons stockpile out of storage, U.S. warns
(Friday, July 13th, 2012)
“Syria has undeclared arsenals of sarin nerve agent, mustard gas, cyanide”
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Do you really think the Messiah would compare the kingdom of God to a mustard seed? The Destroyer certainly would, though!
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The mustard seed is not greater than all herbs!
THE HERBS OF THE Ginkgo Biloba IS
GREATER THAN THE MUSTARD HERB!
By the way the birds of the air/fowls of the air lodging in the branches of a mustard tree is a deceptive aspiration.
The birds/fowls of the air are evil spirits!
Remember the parable about faith called the Parable of the Sower where the birds eat the seed (God’s Word) that falls on stoney ground. The birds are not good and they eat the WORD of God!
FALLEN ANGELS
and PEOPLE THAT SERVE THE DECEPTION
AND SERVE THE EVIL SPIRITS
ARE THE BIRDS AND FOWLS OF THE AIR!
The parable of the Mustard Seed is an invention from a false Messiah
of the false gospels of Matthew, Mark and Luke!
HE IS THE DESTROYER!
DEATH
AGAIN,
The gospel of John does not include the parable of the Mustard Seed!
Proverbs 14:12
Thereis a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.
It isn’t the size of your faith that matters. You can’t measure love…how can you measure faith? It is faith itself!
The gospel of Luke says that the seed is the Word of God….not the size of faith!
Please Read:
Luke 8:5-15
The Parable of the Mustard Seed and the Parable called The Sower and the Seed seem to be conflicting!
Many people that don’t believe in God, but have faith in themselves, have achieved great heights (good and the bad) on earth,
but nevertheless it isn’t just faith that matters,
in the end it matters in whom we believe!
Please read: I AM THAT I AM LINKED BELOW!
Please compare the synoptic gospels to each other. If you do compare them you will notice they seem to ying and yang each other in quite a few instances.
Please take note: Whether or not the author of the Gospel of Luke intended to highlight the contradictions of the synoptic gospels, often the Gospel of Luke seems to be the catalyst, at least for me, to notice the differences. Almost as if, in the agreement of events, the Gospel of Luke points to the deception in the synoptic gospels either in his addendum to the Gospels of Matthew and Mark or his diminution of the events in the Gospel of John!
The Gospel of Luke obviously was written after the Gospels of Matthew and Mark!
Then compare the synoptic gospels (Matthew, Mark, and Luke) with the Gospel of John and see the difference in the events, the personality, and the purpose of the Son of God.
You should notice that the antithesis between the Synoptic Gospels
and the Gospel of John is astounding!
The Truth about the Father and the Son does matter!
TOBE CONTINUED!
On a positive note, here is a site called Mustard Seeds which uses this name for their fantastic business to help children with Autism or PDD!
What is the smallest seed in the world?
The Parable of Faith – Part two
Pope Benedict XVI and the Mustard Tree
Parable of the Mustard Seed Part 4
Indulgences and the Parable of Usury
The Fig Tree – Blessed are the Barren
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TO READ ABOUT THE TRUE MESSIAH PLEASE READ:
I AM THAT I AM (THE SIGN) – Revised
and
I Am the True Vine
Why Callest Thou Me Good?
Billy Graham and The Synoptic Dilemma: The Beast
The Grace of Anathema Maranatha
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Other Blogs of Mine: Merangue’s Blog, Blue Skies, Eye of a Needle, The Keep
In The Garden of Gethsemane
Part one: The Prayers in the Garden
Matthew 26:36-46
36Then cometh Jesus with them unto a place called Gethsemane, and saith unto the disciples, Sit ye here, while I go and pray yonder.37And he took with him Peter and the two sons of Zebedee, and began to be sorrowful and very heavy.38Then saith he unto them, My soul is exceeding sorrowful, even unto death: tarry ye here, and watch with me.
Mark 14:32-34
32And they came to a place which was named Gethsemane: and he saith to his disciples, Sit ye here, while I shall pray.33And he taketh with him Peter and James and John, and began to be sore amazed, and to be very heavy;34And saith unto them, My soul is exceeding sorrowful unto death: tarry ye here, and watch.
Both Matthew and Mark say essentially the same thing!
Luke 22:35-40
35And he said unto them, When I sent you without purse, and scrip, and shoes, lacked ye any thing? And they said, Nothing.36Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.
The reason for the contradiction is he has to lay the guilt of the arrest of Jesus Christ on Jesus Christ himself : for sedition
Jesus Christ did not tell his disciples to buy a sword!
And Luke was not a disciple of Jesus Christ and was not present in the garden to know what Jesus said and has come up with this story out of thin air!
37For I say unto you, that this that is written must yet be accomplished in me, And he was reckoned (weighed) among the transgressors:
for the things concerning me have an end.
38And they said, Lord, behold, here are two swords.
And he said unto them,
It is enough.
This is a parady of the last words Jesus said before he died when He said:
It is finished.
By the way, the things concerning Jesus of Nazareth do not have an end!
It is only wishful thinking outloud from Luke the follower of Saul/Paul and their “way” which looks more and more like they are against the truth and they are the ones that weigh us.
The apostles of the false Christ from the Land of Synopsia
use their swords to slice and dice men,
Jesus of Nazareth and his chosen apostles!
They are antithetical in their three gospels
and other books in the New Testament about
Jesus Christ in the gospel of John!
39And he came out, and went, as he was wont, to the mount of Olives; and his disciples also followed him.40And when he was at the place, he said unto them,
Pray that ye enter not into temptation.
Just out of nowhere Jesus says: Pray that ye enter not into temptation.
Again, making Jesus sound really weird!
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Prayer Number One
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Matthew 26:39-41
39And he went a little farther, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt.40And he cometh unto the disciples, and findeth them asleep, and saith unto Peter, What, could ye not watch with me one hour?41Watch and pray, that ye enter not into temptation: the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak.
Mark 14:35-38
35And he went forward a little, and fell on the ground, and prayed that, if it were possible, the hour might pass from him.36And he said, Abba, Father, all things are possible unto thee; take away this cup from me: nevertheless not what I will, but what thou wilt.37And he cometh, and findeth them sleeping, and saith unto Peter, Simon, sleepest thou? couldest not thou watch one hour?38Watch ye and pray, lest ye enter into temptation. The spirit truly is ready, but the flesh is weak.
Luke 22:41-46
41And he was withdrawn from them about a stone’s cast, and kneeled down, and prayed,42Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done.43And there appeared an angel unto him from heaven, strengthening him.44And being in an agony he prayed more earnestly: and his sweat was as it were great drops of blood falling down to the ground.45And when he rose up from prayer, and was come to his disciples, he found them sleeping for sorrow,46And said unto them, Why sleep ye? rise and pray, lest ye enter into temptation.
It is hard to enter into temptation when asleep and besides they were not asleep as the gospel of John tells.
Why in the world would they be sleeping in a garden in Gethsamane with their two swords that they armed themselves with before entering the garden anyway
(as Luke says earlier).
This is so ridiculous and fakey!
Luke says an angel appeared unto him from heaven to strengthen Jesus, but the other two synoptic gospels (Matthew and Mark) do NOT mention an angel.
As I said a while ago, Luke was not there, so the angel comes from his own imagination!
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Prayer Number Two
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Matthew 26:42-43
42He went away again the second time, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if this cup may not pass away from me, except I drink it, thy will be done.43And he came and found them asleep again: for their eyes were heavy.
Mark 14:39-40
39And again he went away, and prayed, and spake the same words.40And when he returned, he found them asleep again, (for their eyes were heavy,) neither wist they what to answer him.
Both Matthew and Mark say that Jesus went back a second time to pray for the cup to pass away from him! But in the gospel of John when Jesus was in Jerusalem for the Jewish Feast and he says:
John 12:27
27Now is my soul troubled; and what shall I say? Father, save me from this hour: but for this cause came I unto this hour.
Jesus was not trying to escape the reason he came!
He is telling us in John 12:27 that others will say that he asks to be saved from this hour are not witnesses! All three synoptic gospels (Matthew, Mark and Luke) are agreed in this representation and have obviously misplaced this quote to another event and placed it in the garden and it has something to do with the Covenant with Many made in their rendition of the “Last Supper.” John does not include the Covenant with Many made in the Last Supper about drinking the fruit of the vine until the Kingdom of God has come.
Must be that the mysterious “Q” source told them to say it.
The Synoptic “Q Source”
I don’t believe the synoptic gospels (Matthew, Mark and Luke) of what happened in the garden, because Jesus said that was why he came to this hour was to glorify the name of God. Which he did at the feast in Jerusalem:
John 12:28
28Father, glorify thy name. Then came there a voice from heaven, saying, I have both glorified it, and will glorify it again.
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Prayer Number Three
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Matthew 26:44-46
44And he left them, and went away again, and prayed the third time, saying the same words 45Then cometh he to his disciples, and saith unto them, Sleep on now, and take your rest: behold, the hour is at hand, and the Son of man is betrayed into the hands of sinners. 46Rise, let us be going: behold, he is at hand that doth betray me.
Mark 14:41-42
41And he cometh the third time, and saith unto them, Sleep on now, and take your rest: it is enough, the hour is come; behold, the Son of man is betrayed into the hands of sinners.42Rise up, let us go; lo, he that betrayeth me is at hand.
Both Matthew and Mark say that Jesus tells his disciples to sleep on and then tells them to rise. They should have asked him “what do you want us to do? Sleep or rise?”
They make Jesus sound skitszoid!
Luke has no more to say about when Jesus prayed in the garden. Matthew says Jesus prayed a second time and a third time for the cup to pass from him. Mark only says he prayed a second time and a third time all the while the disciples were asleep. Does that include Mark? If he was asleep, how would he know? Luke doesn’t mention a second and a third prayer time. And to top it off……they were not there!
All verses are pretty similar but in Matthew Jesus fell on his face, and in Mark Jesus fell on the ground and in Luke Jesus kneels down to pray. Luke, who adds an angel, agony, and great drops of sweat. Of course, they are all asleep so how would he know of the angel and drops of blood-like sweat and the agony. If Jesus was doing this would not that wake up the disciples, but they were asleep. I imagine if there were an angel visibly there they would be wide awake, but they were asleep.
Does not make sense!
All three of the gospels of Matthew, Mark and Luke say that Jesus is praying for the cup to be taken from him, but in the gospel of John this does not happen at all, in fact, Jesus had already prayed (chapter 17 Gospel of John) at the site of the Last Supper. We know Luke was not there, Mark was not there, and Matthew was not there since they missed out on the dialogue at the Last Supper and the prayer.
Jesus was not asking for the cup to be taken from him in the prayer at the Last Supper. John mentions no prayer at the garden but, of course, John and Peter and whoever was in the garden were supposed to be sleeping. Jesus knew what was going to happen. He is the spirit of prophecy as he says in Revelation.
Why do these other three gospels add this blarney when they were not there at the garden or the supper?
I like Shakespeare, but this is ridiculous.
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Part Two: The Kiss and the Arrest
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Matthew 26:47-48
47And while he yet spake, lo, Judas, one of the twelve, came,
and with him a great multitude with swords and staves,
from the chief priests and elders of the people
.48Now he that betrayed him gave them a sign, saying, Whomsoever I shall kiss, that same is he: hold him fast.49And forthwith he came to Jesus, and said, Hail, master; and kissed him.
Sounds like Judas was Roman!
Mark 14:43-44
43And immediately, while he yet spake, cometh Judas, one of the twelve, and with him a great multitude with swords and staves, from the chief priests and the scribes and the elders.44And he that betrayed him had given them a token, saying, Whomsoever I shall kiss, that same is he; take him, and lead him away safely.45And as soon as he was come, he goeth straightway to him, and saith, Master, master; and kissed him.
How would Mark know what Judas said? Mark says that Judas says to lead him away safely and Matthew says: hold him fast after Judas kisses Jesus!
Matthew says Judas says Hail Master and Mark says Judas says Master, master.
Luke 22:47-48
47And while he yet spake, behold a multitude, and he that was called Judas, one of the twelve, went before them, and drew near unto Jesus to kiss him.48But Jesus said unto him, Judas, betrayest thou the Son of man with a kiss?
That is what Matthew, Mark and Luke seem to be saying is that Judas betrays Jesus with a kiss! Jesus already knew Judas was going to betray him. He said it a bunch at dinner and in the gospel of Matthew 3 times before that. It wasn’t as if Jesus did not know that Judas was going to betray him! This kiss business is so contrived! Jesus knew who would betray him way before the betrayer knew. He also knew if he would kiss him or not and Jesus never prophecies a kiss from the betrayer. HMMMMMM!
Why not?
I guess the authors of Matthew, Mark and Luke forgot to do that!
THE “Q” SOURCE FORGOT TO TELL MATTHEW, MARK AND LUKE.
Please read my post that I have linked:
They betray themselves with their sign: an holy kiss!
Wasn’t it the Synoptic gospels
that said no sign would be given?
Well let’s check:
Matthew 16:3
And in the morning, It will be foul weather to day: for the sky is red and lowering. O ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky; but can ye not discern the signs of the times?
Matthew 16:4
A wicked and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given unto it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas. And he left them, and departed.
Mark 8:12
And he sighed deeply in his spirit, and saith, Why doth this generation seek after a sign? verily I say unto you, There shall no sign be given unto this generation.
Luke 2:12
And this shall be a sign unto you; Ye shall find the babe wrapped in swaddling clothes, lying in a manger.
Luke 2:34
And Simeon blessed them, and said unto Mary his mother, Behold, this child is set for the fall and rising again of many in Israel; and for a sign which shall be spoken against;
Luke 11:29
And when the people were gathered thick together, he began to say, This is an evil generation: they seek a sign; and there shall no sign be given it, but the sign of Jonas the prophet.
Luke 11:30
For as Jonas was a sign unto the Ninevites, so shall also the Son of man be to this generation.
So was the sign of the kiss from Judas in the Garden
the same sign as the sign of the prophet Jonas?
Was the sign of the prophet Jonas the sign of
the baby Jesus in swaddling clothes in a manger?
The Synoptic Gospels are a mess!
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Part Three: One of Them That Smote the Ear
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Matthew 26:50-51
50And Jesus said unto him, Friend, wherefore art thou come? Then came they, and laid hands on Jesus and took him.51And, behold, one of them which were with Jesus stretched out his hand, and drew his sword, and struck a servant of the high priest’s, and smote off his ear.
Mark 14:46-47
46And they laid their hands on him, and took him.47And one of them that stood by drew a sword, and smote a servant of the high priest, and cut off his ear.
Luke 22:49-51
49When they which were about him saw what would follow, they said unto him, Lord, shall we smite with the sword?50And one of them smote the servant of the high priest, and cut off his right ear.51And Jesus answered and said, Suffer ye thus far. And he touched his ear, and healed him.
Luke set this up earlier in his gospel when he said that Jesus told his disciples to buy a sword, so I’m surprised he doesn’t say who it is that smote the ear! But he does say that they asked whether they shall smite with the sword.
This is so unreal!
All three synoptic gospels say it was one of them that smote the ear, so I guess they don’t know which one of them it is!
Doesn’t sound like they are in the know!
Only the gospel of Luke says that Jesus healed the ear.
Luke wasn’t there!
He doesn’t know who smote the ear, but he knows Jesus healed the ear yet no one else notices Jesus healing the ear.
Perhaps Luke or Paul is Malchus?
In depictions of Paul there is always one ear missing or a covering of one ear. ( At least that is what I have noticed IN MY STUDIES AND EXPLORATION.)
Sounds an awful lot like Jackie Kennedy’s amnesia of leaping to the trunk of the car, but knowing why she did. To get brain parts when in actuality it looks an awful lot like a hard tube rolling, Maybe caps from a weapon? Not to mention failing to tell about the puppet she received over the fence line at the airport 1/2 hour before the assassination of JFK, but musing as to why someone would give her red roses as she arrived in Dallas. What is so odd about receiving red roses? Jackie Kennedy had lots of selective memories! Back to the Gospel of Matthew:
Matthew 26:52-54
52Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword.53Thinkest thou that I cannot now pray to my Father, and he shall presently give me more than twelve legions of angels?54But how then shall the scriptures be fulfilled, that thus it must be?
Legion is a roman military term!
Only the three synoptic gospels speak about legion and legions, but mostly in reference to demons! Here is a post about Legions and demons:
Chief Priests and the Legion – Revised
Part Four: Disciples Forsook Him
Matthew 26:55-56
55In that same hour said Jesus to the multitudes, Are ye come out as against a thief with swords and staves for to take me? I sat daily with you teaching in the temple, and ye laid no hold on me.56But all this was done, that the scriptures of the prophets might be fulfilled.Then all the disciples forsook him, and fled.
Of course thats what they were doing, and Jesus knew it! Why did Jesus ask when he already knew that they came out as against a thief with swords and staves to take him?
Again, the synoptic gospels have made nonsense of the truth and betray themselves!
Mark 14:48-52
48And Jesus answered and said unto them, Are ye come out, as against a thief, with swords and with staves to take me?49I was daily with you in the temple teaching, and ye took me not: but the scriptures must be fulfilled.50And they all forsook him, and fled.
51And there followed him a certain young man, having a linen cloth cast about his naked body; and the young men laid hold on him:52And he left the linen cloth, and fled from them naked.
This is a very strange addition to the story! I really don’t understand the meaning of it,
but I am sure the intent to deceive is written all over it!
Kind of makes me think of the Shroud of Turin!
Luke 22:52-53
52Then Jesus said unto the chief priests, and captains of the temple, and the elders, which were come to him, Be ye come out, as against a thief, with swords and staves?53When I was daily with you in the temple, ye stretched forth no hands against me: but this is your hour, and the power of darkness.
Part Five: Peter Follows
Matthew 26:57-58
57And they that had laid hold on Jesus led him away to Caiaphas the high priest, where the scribes and the elders were assembled.58But Peter followed him afar off unto the high priest’s palace, and went in, and sat with the servants, to see the end.
Mark 14:53-54
53And they led Jesus away to the high priest: and with him were assembled all the chief priests and the elders and the scribes.54And Peter followed him afar off, even into the palace of the high priest: and he sat with the servants, and warmed himself at the fire.
Luke 22:54
54Then took they him, and led him, and brought him into the high priest’s house. And Peter followed afar off.
Looks like not all of the disciples fled or forsook Jesus as Matthew and Mark suggest in the section above! Matthew says Peter followed to see the end which is kind of suggesting that Peter was looking forward to this end. Luke seems to suggest that because of the “buying a sword tale” that the true Jesus Christ was the wolf that scatters the sheep only to cover up who the real wolf is!
This post tells who are the wolves in sheep’s clothing:
Chief Priests and the Legion – Revised
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Part Six: According to the Gospel of John
John 18:1-12
1When Jesus had spoken these words, he went forth with his disciples over the brook Cedron, where was a garden, into the which he entered, and his disciples.2And Judas also, which betrayed him, knew the place: for Jesus ofttimes resorted thither with his disciples.3Judas then, having received a band of men and officers from the chief priests and Pharisees, cometh thither with lanterns and torches and weapons.4Jesus therefore, knowing all things that should come upon him, went forth, and said unto them, Whom seek ye?5They answered him, Jesus of Nazareth. Jesus saith unto them, I am he. And Judas also, which betrayed him, stood with them.6As soon then as he had said unto them, I am he, they went backward, and fell to the ground.7Then asked he them again, Whom seek ye? And they said, Jesus of Nazareth.8Jesus answered, I have told you that I am he: if therefore ye seek me, let these go their way:9That the saying might be fulfilled, which he spake, Of them which thou gavest me have I lost none.10Then Simon Peter having a sword drew it, and smote the high priest’s servant, and cut off his right ear. The servant’s name was Malchus.11Then said Jesus unto Peter, Put up thy sword into the sheath:
the cup
which my Father hath given me,
shall I not drink it?
12Then the band and the captain and officers of the Jews took Jesus, and bound him,
Peter was the ONE OF THEM that smote the ear!
The man that had his ear whacked was Malchus!
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Jesus went forth to the garden to meet the band of men and officers from the chief priests and Pharisees, and also Judas.
He did not try to escape! He deliberately met the multitude!
He asked that his disciples be allowed to go their way!
They did not forsake him!
He did what He had purposed to do!
The Crucifixion
John 19:29-30
29Now there was set a vessel full of vinegar:
and they filled a spunge with vinegar, and put it upon hyssop, and put it to his mouth.
30When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished:
and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.
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The Covenant in Blood
I wonder why the three Synoptic Gospel have a a covenant for the many at the Last Supper,
but not in the Gospel of John.
Seems to me that the Gospel of John would include this covenant made with the many?
Matthew 26:26-28
26And as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and blessed it, and brake it, and gave it to the disciples, and said, Take, eat; this is my body.27And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, Drink ye all of it;28For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
Mark 14:22-25
22And as they did eat, Jesus took bread, and blessed, and brake it, and gave to them, and said, Take, eat: this is my body.23And he took the cup, and when he had given thanks, he gave it to them: and they all drank of it.24And he said unto them, This is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many.25Verily I say unto you, I will drink no more of the fruit of the vine, until that day that I drink it new in the kingdom of God.
Luke 22:20
20Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you.
It is written as “covenant” instead of “testament” in the NIV and many other versions of the bible.
Definition of TESTAMENT
And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
So what is Paul saying below?
I have a hard time with Paul and understanding where he is coming from because he seems most of the time to digress/swerve often!
Though it be but a man’s covenant,
yet if it be confirmed,
16Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.
17
And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.
Daniel 9:27 (New International Version)
27 He will confirm a covenant with many for one ‘seven.’ [a] In the middle of the ‘seven’ [b] he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on a wing of the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him.
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